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joysan76
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tervigon psi-power Jul 2, 2012 7:30:24 GMT

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Post by joysan76 on Jul 2, 2012 7:30:24 GMT

(i'm ita so sorry if my english isn't good XD)

in italian forum someone noticed that the power onslaught (?, the one let you run and shot), let you also to assault...

what you think about that? may be a good rule? a bad interpretation? or gw prepared this rule to help 'nids assault having them a good (but modest) shooting?

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tervigon psi-power Jul 2, 2012 8:05:48 GMT

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Jul 2, 2012 7:30:24 GMT joysan76 said:

(i'm ita so sorry if my english isn't good XD)

in italian forum someone noticed that the power onslaught (?, the one let you run and shot), let you also to assault...

what you think about that? may be a good rule? a bad interpretation? or gw prepared this rule to help 'nids assault having them a good (but modest) shooting?

It doesn't allow you to assault. Only models with fleet could do that, but it wasn't anything forced. Now, models with fleet are not allowed to assault. So Onslaught has now become useless... well not totally useless. You can pay for Onslaught and give the Tervigon three Psychic powers from the rulebook.

what do you mean the party's over?

coredump Influence of the Hive Mind Posts: 14,383	tervigon psi-power Jul 2, 2012 8:10:01 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by coredump on Jul 2, 2012 8:10:01 GMT Some people are jumping on it as a possible rules-lawyer loophole.... but no, it does not let you run and assault.
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joysan76 Tyranid Warrior Posts: 189	tervigon psi-power Jul 2, 2012 8:38:52 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by joysan76 on Jul 2, 2012 8:38:52 GMT ok thanks it was also my conclusion but in the dark 'nids future we are searching for some lights XD

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tervigon psi-power Jul 2, 2012 8:44:09 GMT

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Post by Doc Ruby on Jul 2, 2012 8:44:09 GMT

They should probably FAQ that, it does essentially say that if you have fleet, and are under the effects of onslaught, you may assault.

/EDIT: Although it doesn't say WHEN you may assault, it just says you can...what a horrible wording.

Last Edit: Jul 2, 2012 8:44:52 GMT by Doc Ruby

immortalblue Tyrant Guard Posts: 310	tervigon psi-power Jul 2, 2012 11:21:44 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by immortalblue on Jul 2, 2012 11:21:44 GMT I think it's pretty obvious that it's effect should no longer be valid, but purely from a very beardy point of RAW view, it does say that you can assault if you have fleet...

WestRider Hive Tyrant The Tyranid Hive List Building Champion HugsiFex! Posts: 13,305	tervigon psi-power Jul 2, 2012 15:41:14 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by WestRider on Jul 2, 2012 15:41:14 GMT Since no one "Assaults" any longer, they now "Charge", the RAW really doesn't support that at all, which I think is part of why it didn't get FAQed.
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tervigon psi-power Jul 2, 2012 15:48:21 GMT

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Post by Davor on Jul 2, 2012 15:48:21 GMT

It does let you ASSAULT, but the TERMINOLOGY has changed now as WestRider said. We no longer Assault in 6th edition, we charge. Means the same thing, but I wonder, in other languages, how they handled this.

So if you translate in Itilaian, what do you get? We are going buy English version, so we have to go by English Translations. What is it translated in Itilian?

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coredump Influence of the Hive Mind Posts: 14,383	tervigon psi-power Jul 2, 2012 18:55:17 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by coredump on Jul 2, 2012 18:55:17 GMT Plus, it doesn't even say you can assault, it says you can't unless you have fleet. That does not equate to saying you can if you have fleet. Having Fleet just removes Onslaught as a restriction.
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joysan76 Tyranid Warrior Posts: 189	tervigon psi-power Jul 3, 2012 13:52:05 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by joysan76 on Jul 3, 2012 13:52:05 GMT yes in ita version it say like: you can't unless you have fleet. as you say i'm thinking isn't possible but we are hoping in some rule helping us in this hard moment XD

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Post by joysan76 on Jul 2, 2012 7:30:24 GMT

Post by Bot on Jul 2, 2012 8:05:48 GMT

Post by coredump on Jul 2, 2012 8:10:01 GMT

Post by joysan76 on Jul 2, 2012 8:38:52 GMT

Post by Doc Ruby on Jul 2, 2012 8:44:09 GMT

Post by immortalblue on Jul 2, 2012 11:21:44 GMT

Post by WestRider on Jul 2, 2012 15:41:14 GMT

Post by Davor on Jul 2, 2012 15:48:21 GMT

Post by coredump on Jul 2, 2012 18:55:17 GMT

Post by joysan76 on Jul 3, 2012 13:52:05 GMT

Post by Lanesend on Jul 3, 2012 13:57:55 GMT