Devourers and pinning?

[hiveguardalpha]

Do Devourers drop Ld scores vs pinning?

I'm not so sure that they do, but thought I'd check - I'm working on a shiny new brood and wanted to find out if this little synergy I considered works?

[Lanesend]

I think the devourers only drop the Ld on the target unit for the check they make if they lose 25% to shooting.

So I believe it doesn't work for pinning tests.

I don't have a codex with me, but you should be able to find it on the page with the description for weapons.

[squidrog]

well if they take casualties, they have to take a check regardless of how many they lost right?
Not if 25% die.

[Bot]

Jun 15, 2012 11:24:51 GMT squidrog said:

well if they take casualties, they have to take a check regardless of how many they lost right?
Not if 25% die.

No. If the unit is required to take a leadership teste at the end of the phase (Like if 25% of them has died), that unit will get a -1 modifier to that test.

[nurglitch]

It's important to distinguish between different types of Leadership test. Some leadership tests are pinning tests. Other leadership tests are morale tests. Pinning tests are not morale tests, and the Devourer modifier only affects the morale test made for 25% casualties at the end of the shooting phase. That also means that Devourers won't benefit morale tests made for The Horror, since that's an immediate morale test, and the Devourer rules specify the 25% morale test.

[DarkGuard]

nurglitch is right here, the devourer only effects morale tests that would need to be taken at the end of the shooting phase, not pinning tests. Note it doesn't explicitly specify that it only applies to morale tests for losing 25% of casualties, just morale tests that occur at the end of the shooting phase. Of course, the only morale test I can think of at the end of the shooting phase is the 25% casualty one.

[hiveguardalpha]

The manager at the local GW store said that Devourers do affect Pinning - I checked the FAQ and it's not covered...

Tricky!

[coredump]

The rule is pretty darn clear. Your manager either got it wrong, or is creating a house rule for that store.

My guess is he got it wrong.

[hiveguardalpha]

Hokay - I shall have to rethink my Blitzkrieg unit - the plan was to open fire with Devourers - drop Ld and then Barbed Strange the unit to keep it in place.

[nurglitch]

If that's your plan, then take Stranglethorn Cannons instead of Devourers: Pinning tests are taken on a unit-by-unit basis, so each pinning test after the first is like a re-roll.