Eye of the Hive question

[garebear]

Hopefully this is the right place to ask this. I am playing an apoc match soon with my gaming group and I am considering using the formation Eye of the Hive which requires three units of warriors and gives them this awesome psychic power Synaptic Mastery. It gives everything within 12in of the formation catalyst and preferred enemy. Now my question is, what happens if I roll double 1's or 6's. Does every warrior have to take a wound from perils of the warp? Or just one per unit or just one entirely? Also how does psychic defense work against this. If there were a rune priest within 24 in of any of the warriors would he get a chance to negate it? I believe this formation was made in 4th edition so maybe that is why I'm getting confused.

[Inquisitor Stingray]

I believe only a single Warrior takes a Wound, though I have little to back this up with. As long as you remember to put the Wound on already wounded Warriors, I think things should be okay.

I don't mean to hi-jack your thread, but I have a somewhat related question: Back when the Eye of The Hive formation was created, Catalyst was a different spell than it is now. Back then (in fourth edition) it allowed a Catalyst-induced unit to hit back, even if it died. Now it gives everything Feel No Pain. So which do you use?

Same thing about the Hierophant and its Warp Field-power. Is it 6++ or 3++?

[Rakuall]

GW has stated that you must use the current codex. Therefore, unless the datasheet specifically says what the power does (then it's a case of name overlap, not the first time GW has done it; how many codices have 'warriors'?), use the current 'dex's rules.

[maugrim]

So yes - now instead of making sure you get your attacks it gives all your units within that 12" radius (from any/all of the Warrior units in the formation) Feel No Pain.

[Jabberwocky]

FAQ has a psyker unit such as GK only suffering 1 perils per unit, so warriors should be the same as they aren't each using their own power.

Also I believe the common convention is to use the new rules where they exist though since it's apoc.... Anything goes really.

[Elof Valantor]

It's been a long time since I last even played 40K, let alone Apoc, so I may be remembering incorrectly... but my understanding (as agreed with my friends) was that you nominate a brood to cast the power (taking into account any psykic defense) and then cast it. If you get a perils you give the wound to a model in that brood.

[garebear]

Thanks for the help. Ill probably just do one perils per unit since it seems fair as the power effects all units within 12in of all the warrior units. I think I'll also go with drawing psychic defense to any of the units as well since it just seems to make sense that way.

[fragile]

Similiar question. Does each Zoanthrope have to make a psychic test to use the warp blast or just 1 roll for the unit ?

[garebear]

I'm pretty sure each one would make a separate psychic test for each blast since each one is firing a blast. That's the way I've always interpreted it.

[Jabberwocky]

Jun 5, 2012 6:10:11 GMT garebear said:

I'm pretty sure each one would make a separate psychic test for each blast since each one is firing a blast. That's the way I've always interpreted it.

That's right. Each model is a psyker and each can use a different power if it wants, as per the FAQ.