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Post by Dangeresque on Oct 23, 2010 23:34:07 GMT
Furthermore, @ Dangeresque: You trusted them for years. This is a good thing. It proves that things must have changed at some point in time for you... because who would want to remain somewhere bad for years when they could just get up and walk away? That's sorta what I ended up doing! However, I believe I took what kept me here for that time with me. Not that they're objects, we all had a choice. |
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Post by doberman on Oct 24, 2010 2:24:26 GMT
I never had any real problems with any of Salamuts posts, and I regret that he has been banned.
But if it is as Yorimoto says, which I would be inclined to believe. Where Sal has had warning after warning, including a permanent ban warning, and then just went and purposefully got himself banned.
Then I don't understand what the problem is.
What the heck do you expect to happen? Rules are there for a reason, if you purposefully break the rules you have to be prepared for the consequences.
Yori helps keep these forums going, spending his own free time for our benifit. I value his advice with regards to playing Nids.
He does not strike me as the type of person who would get a power trip from just running a forum.
So chill out, and be glad he does what he does.
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Post by yoritomo on Oct 24, 2010 6:29:20 GMT
While I appreicate the support you guys give me I'd rather you not defend me. At this point defending me is like arguing with an internet idiot. All it does is make this thread go on longer. That's giving these guys what they want. The best thing that can happen is to let this die.
Granted, I could lock it, but that's not what we do here. The fact that this thread is still open says something about how "trigger happy" I am. But people will never notice that because they are too wrapped up in thinking "Yori is the devil".
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Post by Loplod on Oct 24, 2010 8:38:00 GMT
Granted, I could lock it, but that's not what we do here. The fact that this thread is still open says something about how "trigger happy" I am. But people will never notice that because they are too wrapped up in thinking "Yori is the devil". You see, I was sitting here and thinking "Wow, It hasn't been locked yet, That's cool of Yori" Then you pointed it out, The subtly of the coolness has gone because now it looks more like a well thought out ploy to make yourself look better (I am at a fairly neutral standing). Some things have greater effect when not said out loud, But rather shown in actions. |
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Post by Dangeresque on Oct 24, 2010 8:59:25 GMT
Granted, I could lock it, but that's not what we do here. The fact that this thread is still open says something about how "trigger happy" I am. But people will never notice that because they are too wrapped up in thinking "Yori is the devil". I laughed at this. It's so horridly out of character it's almost as though you've woken up. I guess you think I'm an "idiot" troll too. God, hasn't that become a stock standard excuse the internet over. Yeah, a troll. That's why I spent so much time trying to get everyone to play nice and have fun in general. Hell, even my Kharnate rampage ended up contributing to a wider realisation that RP was suffering from a distinct lack of quality and an overabundance of five post threads. I can tell you what my part in this is. I can't speak for others and I don't agree with everything others have said. Well... I don't like you. I don't like how you talk and how you act. I couldn't say that before because from my point of view it would have driven all the problems I thought existed further down the drain and possibly ruined everything. But I can say it now. Pffft... look at that. Melodrama at it's finest. True, though. |
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Post by jundswarmmaster on Oct 24, 2010 9:58:51 GMT
Stupid iPod. Cut off second half of post.
What the rest of it was supposed to say was:
Yeah this does happen occasionally but everyone does have a bad day and yoritomo is usually very helpful and nice and stuff.
Long live the turtles!
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Post by Psychichobo on Oct 24, 2010 21:09:40 GMT
Wow, I got quoted. I knew that English degree would come back to haunt me, me and my metaphors..
Right. Firstly, I apologise, because that drug thing stemmed from me kinda, I made a drug reference and had forgotten Proboards rules. I had read them, just simply forgot and I apologised for it.
And Sal's comment to Yori later might've been derived from it, but in all honesty Yori's use of the term 'WarCrack' is quite different to what I'd stated. So, it did kinda seem petty of Sal.
Now, about that comment Dangeresque brought up.
See, how I saw it was this: Sal had done a lot of stupid stuff. He was treading on thin ice, and I didn't always approve of what he did, sometimes it was just a bit stupid.
However, I did feel that what Sal did at that time wasn't worthy of instigating the 'third strike', so to speak. It was a small comment, and wasn't really even malicious - it could've been easily brushed off.
That's the point of my statement - Sal's done some geniunely dumb stuff whilst he's been here, but it did look like a small thing that was used as an excuse to 'finish him off'. Now I don't personally think that, but I can see how it can be percieved as such.
I get that Yori's been a bit hardline as of late, but to be honest since that whole In-Site Trolling of the Roleplay Boards, it's kinda understandable. We did act like idiots for a while, and it did pretty much put us on ice.
I may not agree with Sal's ban, or the complete purge of the General Board or the unexpected locking of threads even slightly off topic.
However, we haven't been the most co-operative bunch. There's trolling, deliberate Mod provocation, and all sorts that's too numerous to recount.
Honestly, everyone is to blame, including myself cos I didn't really point out anything I disagreed with and kinda just let stuff play out.
I don't know how to resolve this situation though. The only thing I can think of is asking for a completely fresh start with both parties. Just have the members not bait, flame, troll, or be idiots and the Mods not clamp down on everything with extreme force, and that'll be it.
And please, no-one respond to this with 'But that's what was happening before so-and-so did such-and-such'. Regardless of whether it's true or not, bickering ain't gonna help.
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Post by Tyrantor on Oct 25, 2010 0:13:50 GMT
I go home without my laptop for 4 days and this happens. o.O
So, someone care to fill me in on what actually went down to get Sal banned? I've got a bit of an idea, but nothing substantial.
My stance on Sal's ban (Since I have no real idea why he was) is either biased by my opinion, or totally unbiased because I have no real idea what happened.
Sal never did really contribute in a positive way in any of my threads, and the overbearing Communism signs everywhere was a bit of a pisstake, so I see it as no real loss to the Hive.
Morally, that's a different story - it would depend how out of line he actually was.
Yori - speaking slightly off topic here, I've always had a great respect for you because of the way you've always kept to the rules of the forum, it prevents The Hive from deteriorating into a mass of people trolling, ranting and general balls-up comedy. While comedy is good, this is a 40k forum primarily.
I do, however, agree that a bit of leniency on the more light hearted and threats going off topic situations wouldn't go amiss.
When considered, there is no real fuss over Sal's ban, it's mainly people now beginning to poke holes in the Hive's structure - well guys, it's a good place, it doesn't need much changing.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by canadianone on Oct 25, 2010 0:42:08 GMT
okay now, let it die guys, let it die...
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Post by Deathnid on Oct 25, 2010 6:29:23 GMT
sure he was a bit of a dick sometimes but he contributed quite a bit of usefull feedback to the community. yori was harsh in banning somebody who was an icon that all the little noobs looked upto even alfter he shot them down. he did break the rules, but you know what they say they are meant to be broken once and a while.
but julio you don't have to leave just because some power mad mod kicked a friend off the forum knowing that guy no matter how "illegal" it is he'll just register a new user and possibly be a bit more friendlier.
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Post by Hellbreaker on Oct 25, 2010 15:39:34 GMT
but julio you don't have to leave just because some power mad mod kicked a friend off the forum knowing that guy no matter how "illegal" it is he'll just register a new user and possibly be a bit more friendlier. Not unless he gets his lazy ass behind seven proxies he won't. Cheers! |
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Post by hivefleetcollossus on Oct 25, 2010 15:59:26 GMT
"Glamorizes the use of illegal substances and drugs." - Proboards Guidlines
"Yori no drug reference it was in the Proboards Guidelines." - Salamut
"You're baiting me, Imma pull the trigger." -Yori "Spin the wheel" tomo
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Post by Tyrantor on Oct 25, 2010 17:19:14 GMT
Right, seen everything now, got a better idea of what's actually happened.
See, in my opinion, I've always liked how you've always enforced the rules Yori - as mentioned before. I do, however, agree that Sal's permaban was a bit harsh. I say a bit..
Regardless of what people's opinion of him is, we're meant to be a friendly community, and banning someone for making a friendly remark at the expendature of one person without any offence seems a bit harsh.
C'mon, if it had been someone else that said what you said and set him up for the joke I doubt the same thing would have happened.
I'm not insisting that he be unbanned or anything, that's not my place to say unless we get some kind of poll going or something.
But I do believe that a bit of leniency can go a long way, we're friendly people here - not robots.
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Post by coredump on Oct 25, 2010 17:20:45 GMT
Okay, I have had enough of the (please do not swear).
Constructive comments are useful, this thread is no longer constructive.
If you have a problem with my locking this thread, I suggest you either
send me a PM and we can discuss it.
Send a PM to a different Mod to discuss it
Send a PM to The Hive Mind to discuss it.
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