Play It Differently

[ohkay]

I was just wondering, is there a game mission where you could play the game like starcraft or any other strategy games?

What I'm looking for is where you could gather materials and for let say each for each body (tyranids) we get, 3 gaunts come out of a spawn hole. for 5 bodies we get a carnifex. Something like that.

Think that would be a good game? Or my idea is just playing stupid and lame?

If anything have played a game like this, how did it go? Stuff like that. If you guys are interested, I can try to write up a game play and such. Think it'll be a good idea?

[thepuritan]

you could try to make something like that...

it'd probably have to be a Skirmish-style game.
each "mineral" (or whatever resource you've got going on) equals a point in model cost... i don't know how you'd cost buildings (also, you'd have to assign a "construction" time in turns...)

so, i think it's certainly possible for you to make up the rules to do this, it might be pretty tough to get it balanced enough to play with other armies.

[Devil's Advocate]

I have copies to a ruleset that simulates Dawn of War. If I remember tonight, I'll grab them so I can transcribe them for you. it's actually really interesting and quite fun.

you have a start zone that's worth resource points, and there are several other objectives on the board. holding each will let you claim it, and gets you additional models to add to the table, and you just buy models using their standard points values.

[thepuritan]

to translate from Starcraft...
you could have your "town hall" type building to make peasant-equivilants (Drones/Rippers/Servitors/what-have-you)
"barracks" to make anything under Troops (sans the upgrades)
certain other buildings could unlock other FOC selections and upgrades
...and the "research" part could be biomorphs that all of your models get (like Extended Carapace or Toxin Sacs)... though, the cost should reflect that it's giving it to ALL of your models that are on the table AND any future ones that come out.

[ohkay]

striogi, your thinking more like a "risk" game, which it's pretty much like normal game but unit jsut come later, and the amount, but sure would like to see how it works.



I got some general idea written down today in school.



Rules:
-You can only build units on your turn.
-You must complete a group of units before you could build another group.
-Normal army rules aply(2 HQ, 6 troops, etc.)
-If you buy unit that can deepstrike and wish to. Roll next turn to see if they arrive.
-Infiltrate units comes next turn.(enemies.)

Building Rules:
-Shack cannot be distroy.
-Spawn building is placed within 6" of the Shack.

New unit.
Gatherer
Pts/Model -WS,BS,S,T, W , I , A ,LD,Sv
10--------------2 , 0 , 3 , 3 , 3 , 1 , 1 , 7 , 4+
SR
-Gatherers have normal 6" movement and fleet.
-Can get out of combat.
-Can not attack while carrying materials.
-If die, material stays where it die.

The game well be set up like normal, terrain and such. The the difference is material is added, like for example, metal(but I'm thinking of just using base stacked up as explain later). There well be a spawn area in your area of the board(pick a build or something). All unit well be produce there. Also place a small house(or whatever) where the material you gather goes. Like a shack. You could play this as city of death or whatever mission you like to add.

To start the game, roll see who goes first like normal. Pick table side. Place material(money/whatever, just something you need to build units) 12" away from the shack. Anywhere players like. There is no building builds. Talk to your enemy see how much point to start off. I'd say best 5% of the total play point, for example; in 2000 point game. Start off with 100 points, 1500 point game start with 75 points, etc. Then ask how much each base is worth. For example; in a 1000 point game, you start with 50 point. So we could say each base worth 50 points. So 19 bases in the material pile.

Let say we're playing a 2000 point so that's 100 start off point. You could spend the 100 point in 10 Gatherers(but you get 5 to start off with no extra cost) or however many and save up points for better units later. Let say each material worth 100 points. They are placed base contact with the shack. They move, fleet, gather, and return to base. Let say you moved 6" fleet 3". Next turn your 3" away. Your move to the material, and lose the rest of your movement. Then you fleet back to base. Same thing apply to getting back to the shack. Once the material reach the base, you'll have the point to creat your HQ(must create a HQ first. If it has unit to go along, wait until the group reach the minimum size before they can be moved). Once you got your HQ, you could move it to attack or wait for more unit before attacking. Then the game carry on from there.



Problems.
The things I'm worrying about is if people only play defensively until they finish gathering all the materials anyone could think of a rules that'll make them want to attack soon? There's a lot of holes in these, would like to hear feel back.

[Shas'o Tash'var Kais Pat]

Well as in DoW, attacking early can have its benefits, so that they can't mount a proper defense. These games reward people who go out and capture several objectives, then use those to get fast resources, then attack

[ohkay]

Good idea. Like for each objective capture, you get 100 point bonus or something. Good idea. Whats DoW anyways?

[Overread]

Dow = Dawn of War - the PC game by relic.
DC = Dark Crusade - stand alone expansion for dawn of war