Triceratops not actually a seperate species

[Psychodrake]

I'm not really comparing them I'm just trying to make an image in my head of what a T-Rex may act like, I doubt it would be quite like a great white though. Maybe the idea of him hitting prey so hard and fast that it outright destroys them, like a great white doing the whole charging from the depths thing. We'll never know is the sad thing ;(

One things for sure, must have taken a lot of food to keep the things going. They weigh like 5+ tons as adults.

Pretty cool skeleton

[salamut2202]

Aug 5, 2010 21:29:23 GMT Thlaylie said:

He is a hyper specialized Biting machine.

yes, scavengers do bite

[squidy]

@salamut: I think you're missing the point of why people are getting upset about t-rex being a scavenger. Horner was saying that t-rex couldn't hunt at all.

On that note, he said they are too slow to hunt. Its calculated that they couldn't only run like 15 mph. The only probldem with this theory is I don't think he said anything about the prey's speed. Thats what really ticks me off. I could be wrong, though. We need a link for this.

On the triceratops note, I could believe it. From what I've read (its pretty vague unfortunutly) it seems plausable and really, I don't see any problem with it. Still going to be called triceratops (by popular demand ).

What is really funny is that nobody knows what use the t-rex's arms are used for. I bet scientists just gave up. ;D

[salamut2202]

maybe they just became vestigial. y'know, it had no use for those arms and were going the way of the steeds of slaanesh.

and i think people might be getting too caught up in their idea of the trex, that's why i'm annoying thlaylie and commented on pluto - because it's the same effect. i'm talking to those protests to unreclassify pluto attitude that shines a bit in thlaylie. the image of the trex - a huge masculine creature which was the pinnacle of land predators turns out to be s giant walking vulture.

anyway, looking at that skeleton that thing was frikin top heavy, doesn't look like it can brace itself in a fall either - not something that would be overly successful for a chasing creature. it looks a little too NOT STEALTHY to be an ambush predator so unless he was going after really slow things that isn't super armoured or spiky or had like a rocket launcher attached to it's tail








i mean some of these species in the mid cretaceous were from the late jurassic. these things would be easier to eat if they were not armed or, y'know, dead. heck, there's more evidence that to suggest that trex hunted more of eachother than anything else. at least they weren't a big brick with an axe hanging off it's arse. and with the speculation that the cretatious was a volcanic era like everywhere than there would be alot of toxic fumes and there wouldn't be a shortage of bodies. like i said - lions', and now brought up, hyenas' diet is 9/10 times dead when they get it. and often steal things from eachother. like dead things.

so the main argument is just to annoy thlaylie for being closed minded but i see where horner's coming from.

[Thlaylie]

Scientists are mistaken about T-rex's speed. They are using mammilian muscle and bone densities for examples. Birds are just built more awesome.

T-Rex could run at over 35 mph!

As for the bony spiky dinosaurs, why do you think they evolved all that armor? So they won't get scavenged?

[Captain Malachi]

I love how he can just say 'scientists are wrong' with such conviction. It's astounding, it really is.

Look, Thlaylie, these people have researched and studied these animals for the best part of their lives. You've read a book (if that). I think I'll believe them thanks.

[salamut2202]

Aug 6, 2010 1:43:32 GMT Thlaylie said:

As for the bony spiky dinosaurs, why do you think they evolved all that armor? So they won't get scavenged?

nah, because they were too slow to get away from
and stuff

[Thlaylie]

Aug 6, 2010 1:54:17 GMT Captain Malachi said:

I love how he can just say 'scientists are wrong' with such conviction. It's astounding, it really is.

Look, Thlaylie, these people have researched and studied these animals for the best part of their lives. You've read a book (if that). I think I'll believe them thanks.

If You only knew!

Fine, believe what you want, it won't help in the end.

You will see I'm right.

That's why I withhold what I could be giving them, best they try to figure it out for themselves.

Hasn't worked yet however.

[salamut2202]

out of curiousity what's your occupation? if you turn out to be a paleontologist or something you might sound slightly less "pluto is a planet (please do not swear)"

[Reaper]

Aug 6, 2010 5:33:30 GMT Thlaylie said:

You will see I'm right.

Sadly, it is most likely that none of us will ever see the way in which this reptile gathered food. Regardless, I shall cling to my childhood fantasies of the T-Rex madly chasing down its prey.

[Fungus A]

Aug 6, 2010 1:54:17 GMT Captain Malachi said:

I love how he can just say 'scientists are wrong' with such conviction. It's astounding, it really is.

Look, Thlaylie, these people have researched and studied these animals for the best part of their lives. You've read a book (if that). I think I'll believe them thanks.

Hey man, it's just his opinion, no need to get hostile.

[salamut2202]

Aug 6, 2010 9:17:35 GMT Reaper said:

Aug 6, 2010 5:33:30 GMT Thlaylie said:

You will see I'm right.

Sadly, it is most likely that none of us will ever see the way in which this reptile gathered food. Regardless, I shall cling to my childhood fantasies of the T-Rex madly chasing down its prey.

let me ruin them

[Psychodrake]

Salamut - Did you not hear about the whole mummified dinosaur fiasco a while back? That led to us realizing how much we underestimated the muscle mass of dinosaurs. This is the recreation they made from the dinosaur they found.

They found that the muscle was considerably greater than we ever imaged. So we could take some older depictions of T-Rex based on the fossil and anatomy like so

It would probably have a consderable amount more muscle around the tail and legs/thighs and POSSIBLY (Speculation) rid of the top-heavy theory. Though a trip would probably still break the ribs, there are many other large predators that would have had the same problem such as Giganotosaurus (Hunted enormous dinosaurs), Spinosaurus (Which was a fisherman so we'll let him off) and others like Acrocanthosaurus, Carcharadontosaurus. You could say it was an evolutionary mistake to evolve the size and weight for predators.

[salamut2202]

yeah but denser muscles could make it just heavier too and the top heavy seesaw of therepods just gets exaggerated! the other flip side too is that it's prey is now just faster or tougher too. but how about if the prey dinosaur didn't get the same muscle? then we can't assume that the trex had it because some iquanadon psudo mummy (it's still rock - organic matter has to be present before i call it a mummy) had super muscles.

oh, and jut to prod thlaylie - did you know there i fossil evidence that trex may have been feathered. a feathered scavanger - what a fall from tyranny!

[Psychodrake]

Well I still reckon we've missed something. I fully support Tyrannosaurus scavenging but I also expect him to hunt, seeing as though we had the mentally challenged Ankylosaurus and co. and the vision restricted ceratops as well as the free-meal duckbills.

I reckon a T-Rex running at full speed would catch an accelerating duckbill, which kind of supports a more up-front approach. Maybe T-Rex was clever and had a different strategy for each prey, I'd quite like to have a match with him on Starcraft.

EDIT: His arms can't reach the keyboard, darn.