The Carnifex is too big.

[ZergLord]

Has anyone noticed that the Carnifex is much bigger than he should be? He is taller than the Tyrant.

It almost makes me wish for bigger Fex models.

[Haraio [MALAL]]

I think rather the Tyrant is too small. He stands just a little bit taller than a Warrior, while the Tyrant model stands about twice as tall as a warrior.

[kryse]

Honestly to me though it makes sense that the carnifex is bigger compared the Tyrant. He's supposed to be this massive crushing thing, where as the Tryant is a leader. I mean it makes sense just cause he's strong and stuff to me...But that's just me..

[Haraio [MALAL]]

Also, the Tyrant in DoW2 is a character, not a killing machine like in the board game. What happens on the tabletop if a Tyrant charges a Dreadnaught? The Dreadnaught most likely dies. What happens in DoW2 if the Tyrant charges the Dreadnaught (without crushing claws upgrade)? The Tyrant gets his alien tail handed to him on a silver platter. They've enhanced the Tyrants image as a leader and as an infantry-killer. Thus, the Carnifex is made bigger and badder, to look like it can REALLY kick a vehicle half across the map ;D

[Elaitor]

Then why is it that even the Carnifex gets his tail handed on a platter, if I send him up against a Dreadnought?

Seriously, there are some things in DOW2 I really don't get. Yet.

[Helonion]

Feb 9, 2009 14:45:07 GMT Elaitor said:

Then why is it that even the Carnifex gets his tail handed on a platter, if I send him up against a Dreadnought?

Seriously, there are some things in DOW2 I really don't get. Yet.

You have to upgrade him for melee combat. So his DMG and HP get a boost.

[ZergLord]

Or give him Venom Cannon.

VC on a Fex is friggin powerfull.

[Helonion]

Feb 9, 2009 19:09:05 GMT ZergLord said:

Or give him Venom Cannon.

VC on a Fex is friggin powerfull.

Tried it once on a garrison, mines did the job easier. Also BS works wonderfully in groups of 3+.

Also thought you called the fex a virgin with out upgrades XD, still tired .....

[ErA | zoe)ender]

Feb 7, 2009 21:39:34 GMT Haraio [MALAL] said:

They've enhanced the Tyrants image as a leader and as an infantry-killer. Thus, the Carnifex is made bigger and badder, to look like it can REALLY kick a vehicle half across the map. ;D

Would sig that... No space

[Zoop]

Feb 9, 2009 14:45:07 GMT Elaitor said:

Then why is it that even the Carnifex gets his tail handed on a platter, if I send him up against a Dreadnought?

Seriously, there are some things in DOW2 I really don't get. Yet.

Venom Cannon Carnifex owns dreaddies.

Knowing when to pull back your units, and using abilities like Bio-Plasma or Pheremone trail at the right time gives you the advantage.

Dawn of War 2 is different from Dow1 as it requires a lot more micro management. In Dow I could just make like a couple of dreads and 2 landraiders and go kick some @ss. Especially against AI (which was pathetic) I could kill several Hard AI's with that same very squad. That's not going to happen anymore in dow2.

You can field up to 5 carnifexes but it does not work as well as it's scary. A couple of missiles pointed at em, and they're in trouble.

You can't also just point a carnifex "go kill that dreadnought" and just sit and wait, you got to keep active with your troops at all times.

This is way I think DoW2 FRICKING ROCKS! It plays so much more tactical than most RTS's I'm used to. Most RTS's just come down to 2 things:
- Build a tank army as soon as possible, and rush
- Hold out and defend against rushes to give you enough time to make say, 500 tanks, and flood the enemy (luckily some rts's use a popcap).

There's hardly any tactic in that. You just select those tanks, and point them at the enemy, and watch the fireworks! (I'm a big fan of Command and Conquer games, but this has been the flaw in each and single one of them)

Dow2 requires actual tactical skill, it owns!

[ErA | zoe)ender]

Gumble...

CnC is more then that...

Rushing is an art!

[Helonion]

Feb 19, 2009 15:03:03 GMT ErA | zoe)ender said:

Gumble...

CnC is more then that...

Rushing is an art!

MUSIC TIME!

[ErA | zoe)ender]

Damn it, I love that game.

Real Time Strategy comes to FPS!






_Win!

Not to mention the missions were ace. Amazing game in general, I don't know why it was so poorly reviewed.

[Zoop]

Feb 20, 2009 2:14:26 GMT ErA | zoe)ender said:

Damn it, I love that game.

Real Time Strategy comes to FPS!
_Win!

Not to mention the missions were ace. Amazing game in general, I don't know why it was so poorly reviewed.

Because everything programming/code-wise about that game sucks The gameplay is very fun, I got to agree. Played it a lot at our Lanparties, Orca's own But the engine just sucks, Westwood chose to build their own engine, instead of using the Quake3 engine they were gonna use. There's a lot of things wrong with the game, but I guess it just really appeals to a lot of CnC fans.



Oh and about rushing, it takes a lot of practice to be able to do it right, but .... is it fun? Every single game always turns out the same! That ruined CnC online for me.

I've played 2vs2 Ranked RA2:YR for a long time though, been 2nd of europe for several months, till we gave up when we realised we could never beat #1 (it was a 30man clan or so, while we were 2, they simply played a lot more matches then we did)

Also, CnC got killed since EA took over Westwood, they totally screwed up the Scrin in C&C3

[ErA | zoe)ender]

Nah man, CnC 3 is a great game. Scrin are amazing. Unlike generals, EA actually took time to make this game.