1.5k Dark Angels List

[koran]

OK, this is my thoughts on a 1500pt Dark Angels list for 5th Ed.


[glow=red,2,300]HQ[/glow]

Belial

Samiel



[glow=red,2,300]Troops[/glow]

Deathwing x5
Apothecary
Assault Cannon


Ravenwing x6
Apothecary
Attack Bike
Melta gun x2
Power Weapon
Melta bomb


Tactical Squad x 10
Plasma Cannon
Plasma gun
Power Fist


Tactical Squad x 10
Plasma Cannon
Plasma gun
Power Fist

And then either a vindicator or two razorbacks ( one for each squad), one with twin heavy bolters, the other with twin lascannons.

To me it seems to have enough firepower to deal with tanks and a few monsterous creatures (possibly not a full blown Nidzilla, but should be OK with powerfists too). I dont know, maybe its a bit small (im used to looking at bigger army lists for nids or guard) but it looks pretty survivable. And five (with the possibility of eight) capturing units.

[koran]

15 views and no thoughts?

[Masokysm]

I think it's good but I'm not so familiar with Dark Angels. I have never faced a Dark Angels army, nor seen one in the local Games Workshop. Sorry!

[pocketsizednid]

1. you're unit count is right
2. you're going to be seriously outnumbered, but survivable.
3 off the top of my head don't you mean a melta gun & multi-melta?
4. are you running Samiel in his speeder or the jetbike?
i dont have my codex with me right now but i'm a fan of having more bodies on the field other than than it looks okay to me

[sooch[TVTP]]

My 1000 point nidzilla army outnumbers your army....

[koran]

No the bike squad will have two melta guns, and on top of that there is an attack bike (most likely witht he multimelta).

I havent decided on Samiel's mount. Ive bought the ravenwing box set and converted a samiel on landspeeder, but the jetbike is such a nice model I will be buying that too... I guess I will see what works, but generally against EMQ the jetbike and against hord the landspeeder. It also depends on if I take the vindicator or razorbacks... Because one vindicator on its own will have every antitank in the game gunning for it....

And sooch that may be true... But then how many scoring uints does it have ;p

[sooch[TVTP]]

Four.

[pocketsizednid]

@ sooch the DA were the first marine unit to use the combat squads rule, wich splits a 10 man units into two 5 man teams, also the bikes get combat squads, the attack bike acts as an independent scoring unit. "p.27 DA codex"

@ koran do you plan on using the vidicator as a fire magnet?
edit: you're also 105 points over

[koran]

Am I? Im pretty certain Im not but I will add that up again...

I was thinking that the vindicator might end up tha way... Get one shot it then anything else is a bonus... My way so seeing it is that terminators mostly need anti-tank weapons to take out so Im looking at them like a tank in terms of whats going to want to fire at them... Thes a 50/50 choice on what to fire at or a three way split if samiel is on his landspeeder. If its got razorbacks it will be even more but they dont have the destructive capability of the vindicator... And with the run rule are transports really needed?

105pts... Im annoyed by that cos I didnt think I was, I thought I was dead on... Mmm....

[pocketsizednid]

from what i know your raven & deathwing will have a huge bullseye painted on them from the start. if you really want anti-tank on the termies, use chainfists or thunder hammers.you could give them a missle launcher instead of the cannon. the vehicles are up to you. if i knew what you really wanted to stay the same we can get this working

[koran]

Sorry, I think you missread (or I explained poorly) what I meant above.

When I create a list I look at what is going to be used to destroy it. This generally means that I get two catagories, inrantry and tanks. However in my opinion the exception ot this rule is terminators because, although they are infantry, its normally anti-tank weapons that take them out. Im in no way going to use them as an anti-tank unit with that load out, they are their to sit on an objective with a "this is MINE try to get it if you can" look about them.

[pocketsizednid]

yep. i misread it. but you'd want the hammers & shields (better invul. in CC)

[koran]

Im half way on that. Obviously I agree that its a better invunerable save in combat but I dont think Im going to have them in combat that much (obviously if I can avoid it). With the mobility of the bikers if something comes close I should be able to bring quite a bit of firepower to bear on whatever the threat it and most CC beasts arnt going to stand up to that kind of fire power. Im concidering having a hammer and shield with cyclone on standby incase I cange my mind but I like the synergy of a whole unit with 24" range all armed with the same CC weapon (I will pay 5pts to give the sergent a chainfist so its basically the same as the unit).

[pocketsizednid]

then why not bump it up to 2k?