Tyranids not in DOW2?

[squidy]

I found this video and if you look more into it, we might get screwed over.



Go to 53 seconds into the video. I quote: "I wouldn't look too much into that". At that point he was talking about the dark cloud. Is he covering up, or did they throw tyranids out the window? Because seriously, this is a load of bull!

[Helonion]

Look that's the interview with the E3 trailer, we all have seen it, it has been posted on her a lot and it's bloody ******** Tyranid.

[squidy]

Oh, sorry.

[Helonion]

Jul 22, 2008 19:05:52 GMT squidy said:

Oh, sorry.

It happens.

[romorini]

What's so definite? This is the first interview I've seen, is there another one out there which is more explicit? With what this guy's saying, Tyranids wouldn't really make sense to have in this game as a playable race. While there are many ways one can customize and arm our units, there are other races that would fit the proposed play style far better.

[Haraio [MALAL]]

But then again, let's face it. The whole game is not going to be the campaign. There is going to be skirmish too, and even if they only have a few races in the campaign, there is definately going to be more races in the skirmish mode. Just look at the original Dawn of War game. Look at Company of Heroes

[Terminus Prime]

Jul 22, 2008 23:01:01 GMT romorini said:

What's so definite? This is the first interview I've seen, is there another one out there which is more explicit? With what this guy's saying, Tyranids wouldn't really make sense to have in this game as a playable race. While there are many ways one can customize and arm our units, there are other races that would fit the proposed play style far better.

Who says we don't fit in this kind of squad-based game? People say "Oh no, Tyranids can't because they're a swarm army and that doesn't fit with the squad-centric gameplay".

I've got a bubble to burst here and now. TYRANIDS ARE NOT JUST A SWARM ARMY. Sure, our basic trooper, the Gaunts are meant to be used in a swarm. But we have Carnifexes, Hive Tyrants, Genestealers, Zoanthropes, and five hundred variants of Warrior including Raveners and Lictors. Tyranids' primary focus is not swarms, it's VERSATILITY. Which fits extremely well with a squad-based game. Imagine a group of well-developed superpredators. Replace the word "squad" with "brood" and it fits perfectly well.

As for "I wouldn't look too much into that", he's just trying to keep the suspense and evade the question. Interviewees do that when asked about an intentionally vague portion of a preview.

[madcat]

Maybe it's just me, but the tone of the guys voice makes it sound like he's just saying it to cover it up.

[mosemanden]

just looking around the internetz, i found this thread somewhere, and they seem to be quite certain the tyranids are in DoW2.

www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/warhammer40kdawnofwar2/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-44513199&pid=945727

[romorini]

Terminus Prime: On the whole, I agree with you, but in terms of the in-game personality of the Tyranids, we are a chitinous wall of blades and toxic munitions. The way the developers talk about fine-tuning and developing the close-knit force at your command could work quite well if this sticks with how our codex enables us to engineer our forces.

The problem may be that our leaders are super-predators, more akin to a T-rex than a sergeant and our troops won't have that dynamic you see in WWII infantry movies, which wouldn't fit into the campaign.

[Josef]

Jul 29, 2008 6:11:20 GMT romorini said:

The problem may be that our leaders are super-predators, more akin to a T-rex than a sergeant and our troops won't have that dynamic you see in WWII infantry movies, which wouldn't fit into the campaign.

Brood lord...that solves that problem.

[Terminus Prime]

Space Marines had their Dreadnought. What stops us from having a Tyrant or a Carnifex? Watch, Wraithlords and Deff Dreads will be in also. For us, it just happens to be an HQ choice instead of HS, which in the game doesn't matter.

Also the Warriors are one of the central pieces to the Tyranids' versatility, and are even described in their entry as "leader-beasts". Doesn't that mean they can fill the role of Sergeant?

[romorini]

I may be over-thinking this. When I was listening to the interview, I got an image in my head of Kelly's Heroes when the designer was describing the intended feel. When I imagine Tyranids in motion, I picture a tyrant surveying the battlefield while stalking like a T-Rex, and Warriors moving with lethal cunning similar to the velociraptors. Meanwhile, you have Eldar and marines enacting carefully drawn plans and silently coordinating with gestures and doing general militaristic things. I guess I see tyranids hunted while everyone else is preforming military operations (except Orks, they're more like rowdy buccaneers).

That doesn't matter as far as game mechanics go, so it could fly.

[jonimus]

hope the nids come soon in dow2

[facehugger]

romorini: Tyranids? Hunted?! What!? I could see what you meant about the 'Nids stalking rather than doing signals and stuff but I didn't get what you meant when you said they were being hunted. Explain please.