Space Marines Preview: Very possible models

[Facade [TVTP]]

I hadn't learned about the New Marines until I read an earlier post, but since that post didn't have any pics and was purely voting...I though why not post the pics?


So here they are: (No names have been given)

;D
Behold: Shing, sparkle, sparkle...


New Land Raider w/Inferno Cannons or Heavy Flamers???

Tank Comm on foot

New Tech Marine....Marines get a shiny new gun for 5th...

Umm Masters of the Chapter?

Crimson Fists Commander

Another Commander.....

;D
These don't look any different...although those missiles are rumored to be plastic...I hope.

New Assault Marines....Some sort of special Veteran squad

New tank Gunner w/cool new shoulder pads

A plastic Drop Pod

Scout Bikers

A special Ranger character... and hopefully better looking rangers


Now here's the info I got off another site...I can'r recall the name, but give the credit to them
-And even though they assure you of the new stuff, consider it as a rumor....I hope I'm not breaking any rules....Mods is this ok??

Here's the Codex Info:
The info bellow is 100% taken from a final print new SM dex.

Codex
144 pages. (twice he size of the necron dex)
Written by Jervis + Matt
Cover art of Ultramarines
Section for each of the Chapters of Legend (like Eldar Craftworlds in C:Eldar) but without any in-game rules.

General Marine Rules
Combat Squads works as codex Dark angels. 1 Heavy 1 special.
New marine rule, based on Ld, called Comabt tactics.
New Drop pod rule.
Traits dissapear.
Free frag grenades, krak grenades and bolt pistols.

Unit Rules
new techmarine rules has a new option in the form of the thunderfire
Master of the forge, has a conversion beamer.
new land raider variant, called the Redeemer with Str 6 AP3 flamer sponsons and twin linked assault cannon. Sallies like this and the colour section has one in sallies colours.
3 Dread variants. Again sallies seem to favour the new Ironclad Dread which is like a heavy assault/breaching dread. (AV13)
New Veteran rules - Tactical Vets (special ammo like death watch.), and Assault vets (can have jump packs and an assaulted array of nasty CC weapons) can deep strike and assault in the same turn.
Scout bikers will remain.
No two special weapons even for Sallies .
5 man terminator squads 1 heavy.
Commander in terminator armour on a bike or has a jump pack has no bearing on army selection. However special characters do.
Rites of battle is gone. But marine captain get Halos

Special Characters
11 specials which add chapter traits to your army, Calgar, Tigirius, Lysander, Shrike, Kronos, Sicarius, Kantor, Tu’Shan (WTF really hard guy probably the best SM charater in the game but at 200+ points…), Cassius, White Scar guy and scout character, all will have models.

Other Stuff
Drop pod kit looks similar to the forgworld kit but is hollow with seats around the edges and a control table in the middle. Storm bolter come down from the ceiling of the pod when deployed.
Drop pod kit priced about the same as rhino’s (£1
Codex release date is October
Plastic LR redeemer/crusader
Plastic Scout bikers, imaging scouts on scrambler bikes!
Retooled Plastic Land speeder + another new varient which works with scout squads call land speeder storm.
Scouts have helfire heavy bolter rouns but are WS and BS 3 and are still troops
Thunderfire a thuddgun/molemortar cross.
New metal range (I think more metal vets!….. again…. mmmm jump packs!)
New Sicarus now has hair and a beard! *shrugs* go figure!
Razor back has may weapon option, twin heavy bolter, Heavy Flamers, Assault Cannons, Multimelta, Lascannon, and Lascon and twin plasma guns.
New HQ units.

Marines are now what you may call pretty hard!

HQ

Specials
Captain
Master of the forge
Librarians
Chaplains

ELITES

Terminators
Vanguard Vets (tact vets)
Vets (assault vets)
Dreadnough
Venerable Dreadnought
Iornclad Dreadnought
Techmarines - Thunderfire

TROOPS

Tactical Marines
Scouts

TRANSPORTS

Rhino
Razorback
Drop Pod
Land Speeder Strom (Scouts only)

ASSAULT

Assault Marines
Bikes
Scout Biks
Attack Bikes
Landspeeder

HEAVY SUPPORT

Preadator
Devastators
Vindicator
Wirlwind
Land Raider
Land Raider Crusader
Land Raider Redeemer”

~There is talk about the marine special rule being voluntary fallback, and the possibility of veterans being able to deepstrike and charge on the same turn. Wow, voluntary fallback, and the conversion beamer makes their return. Thats a lot of cool stuff in there. More as we get it, and as usual, Caveat Emptor folks.

Alright...that's it. Any comments?

[dezzo [TVTP]]

I heard/read that the new Land Raider will have all the parts for a Land Raider, Land Raider Terminus and Land Raider Crusader. (Means the kit will supply all the weapon systems so you can swap around)

Also, the whole kit will be in plastic.

I'm really keen to get this kit and do it up with magnets and stuff, as I recently sold my LRC.

[Hyper Kinetic]

For those who want to know, linky to that site here:
belloflostsouls.blogspot.com

Their information is usually quite good, being that they follow many forums and generally know who feeds relatively good info and who feeds garbage. They sift through the garbage to give relatively solid rumours. It is also a good site for tips in painting and tactics on some of the lesser used units, though they generally have more of an Imperial/Marine/Inquisition view of things. They also produce a lot of gaming material. For example, they have just released a campaign booklet with tons of info and new things that they have designed. Recommended viewing.

[Krueger]

Those new veterans are apparently called Sternguard Veterans and they looks pretty good. I've started a small Marine battleforce and I'm looking forward to getting my hands on that new codex. I really like that techmarine gun. Looks freaking nasty.

All in all, looks supercalifreakingawesome

[Hyper Kinetic]

Kreuger. Never. Say. That. Again. (actually... it's hilarious: one of my friends used to work at that place and to watch the tension on his face every time someone used their slogans whilst he was in-store... sadistic bliss Woe to to whoever said anything in the real world though )

The techmarine looks less like it is there to fix things and more like it is just another warrior... albeit with further bionics. I don't like it. I mean it looks great and all... but it is supposed to be devoting its life to fixing things, not exploderising them. The vehicle-thingy looks cool too. And the Raider.

[Facade [TVTP]]

I love it all, and I'm going to order the Spearhead. It comes out on September 20th and it should cost roughly $166.00 in American Dollars counting tax and everything.
It's a big box people, with lots of goodies inside.

Oh and here's what BOLS has to say on the contents n stuff:

Contents





Drop pod

Scout bikers (x3)

Thunderfire gun + Servitor

Sgt Chronus

Sgt Tellion

Pedro Cantor

Captain Sicarus

Vanguard Veterans boxed set (5 models)

Sterguard Veterans boxed set (5 models)

Codex: Space Marines


Also mentioned was the release of other chapters shoulder pads. Chapters mentioned were: Genesis, Mentors, Aurora, and Praetors of Orpheus.

It is also said that the limited edtion model that you can only get online in America at the moment is coming to the UK when GW launches the new website over there and will be given away when you sign up for a online account. A purchase will probably be needed.

[sonofmakuta]

I'm tempted to do a motivational poster...



Ah well. Veterans that can assault after deepstriking, with tons of power weapons by the look on it, that's gonna be pretty nasty. If they give the ability to Raveners and pretty much all of our winged stuff when we get a new codex, I'll forgive them and call it realistic instead of cheesy. If not... They look nice though, apart from one or two of them which seem to have almost chubby or cartoonish proportion (slightly overlarge, plump head, fattish arms) - the one with the two handed sword and the one on the right in the beaky helmet.

That Thunderfire cannon? That's almost certainly gonna put out four blast templates, if I had to make a guess I'd say S5 AP6. Probably pretty cheap too. Whether it'll count as artillery, another normal model, or just a weapon on the techmarine (a la Eldar weapon platforms in Guardian squads) only time will tell. I've heard that that new tank commander is ridiculous - he makes the vehicle BS5 and allows it to ignore stunned and shaken, or something, and doesn't die if the vehicle gets popped (wtf?). I fear that on a Land Raider Crusader. *shudders*

Oh, and assault cannons on Razorbacks? WHAT?

The Redeemer actually doesn't sound so bad. It's an unkillable flamer machine and will hurt our 'nids pretty badly, but it'll hopefully encourage Marine players to move a bit instead of castling up. We're still gonna have to put up with heavy weapon Combat Squads in the back of the deployment zone, but as long as they make each CS a kill point then that's fine by me, it'll make them a bit more versatile. If they make it so you have to take down both Combat Squads to get a kill point, Marines will be pretty much unbeatable in Annihilation... although I doubt they'd do that, even GW have more sense than that (maybe), and anyway it'd be a pain in the neck keeping track of which squad is paired with which.

Tactical Veterans shouldn't be too bad as long as they don't brutally overpower the ammo choices (shudders as he foresees a unit fielding entirely blast template bolters or something). Also, they look damn cool. New life given to Scouts, excellent, the little 4+ save dudes deserve some respect. A Land Speeder transport sounds pretty cool, although I can't think what the model's going to look like, as a Land Speeder is basically two engines, two crew and some dakka stuck together with duct-tape. Do they just cling to the fins or something?

[zeewulf]

Bloody hell, Space Marines don't need tank commanders, The GUARD do!

[Biowraith]

Oh...Oh dear.. I have enough trouble with whirlwinds, without another Artillery peace blowing my 'Nids to bits! But i do like the idea of a Flamer-Crusader, i don't know why its just pleasing. The Tank commander looks pretty awesome, but giving a tank BS 5 *Shudder*

[3ff3ct]

Im pissed about the vets with jump packs, they fitted in well with blood angels as theyre all close combat-y, now it looks like theyre going to go back to just red marines again Nice to the land raider though!

[Facade [TVTP]]

Yup, and don't worry...Im sure Guard are getting a few Tank Comm. on foot too...

Also...I hear that their tank models will differ from 4th edition.....maybe in size by a couple centimeters???

Idk

[Facade [TVTP]]

And here's more SPace Marine cheese from BOLS

Enjoy:


Games Day Chicago is over, and our Bothan spies tell us the following based on a review of Codex:Space Marines

In general, almost all of the latest round of rumors are correct. The codex is described as lavish, with a large color section, and clocking in at nearly 150 pages. Lets dive right into some of the details:

HQs
Master
Has well over 20 wargear options, and access to a once per game S:10 AP:1 Orbital Strike that is somewhat similar to the Witchhunter power.

Librarian
Leadership 10, and has an entire page of various powers to select from. Big news is the Psychic Hood which now has a range of 24" instead of infinite.

Master of the Forge
Access to the Conversion Beamer, an old-school Rogue Trader era weapon with a 72" range that grows more powerful the greater the distance to its targets. At its top end, it is S:10 AP:1 Small Blast.

Elites
Terminators
Available in squad sizes of 5-10. Stormshields for Assault Termys confirmed as 3+ invulnerable vs all attacks (assault and shooting).

Techmarines
Has a power allowing you to improve the cover save of a single piece of ruins in your deployment zone by +1. Access to the Thunderfire Cannon, which is artillery and has multiple fire modes based upon 4 small blast markers. One of the fire modes makes its target count as being in difficult ground next turn. ~neat!

Honor Guard
These bad boys have access to "Relic blades" which are +2S powerweapons. Their squad leader is the "Company Champion" who is required to direct attacks vs enemy ICs if possible. ~cool!

Troops
Tactical Squads
Available in 5-10 men. Squads of ten grant access to Flamer/Multimelta/Missile Launcher/Heavy Bolter for FREE. Squads less than 10 may not purchase any special or heavy weapons. ~Heed the words of the Codex Astartes indeed!

Scouts
WS/BS:3; the heavy bolter option has access to Hellfire rounds.

Land Speeder Storm
Scout transport land speeder nullifies enemy teleport homers and icons within 6". Enemy deepstrikers within 12" roll double scatter. Enemy units who are assualted from it are at -2 Leadership.

Combat Tactics
New marine special rule allows you to voluntarily fail any morale check for any unit in the army.

ICs
Shrike (Raven Guard)
Grants the entire army Fleet instead of Combat Tactics. He has rending lightning claws and Infiltrate.

Cantor (Crimson Fists)
Grants the entire army Stubborn instead of Combat Tactics. Sternguard Veterans count as scoring units.

~I'm thinking of two things. First is the wailing and gnashing of teeth that will ensue as folk's 6-man las-plas squads are consigned to history. Second is the awesome combos Combat Tactics and ATSKNF will allow. Things such as taking shooting casualties, then falling back out of assault range to blast away at assaulters comes to mind. I'm sure there are many, many other mean tactics this will allow. What do you guys think?

[jonimus]

gottta say tyranids are still more cooler than space marines >

[Facade [TVTP]]

Yup...but its more fun painting marines....after all it is harder.....