IG Codex Questions

[T Spear_Chucker]

While reading over the codex, some confusing things have come up in the rules section.

1) Based on what I understand, IG needs to have a minimum of 2 normal IG platoons for the troops choices. That's 45 models and a minimum of at least 280 points worth right there! Even if I got conscripts, I would need to have at least 40 models for 2 troop choices. Am I understanding this correctly? Compared to Tyranids, we only need 16 models to fill up our 2 mandatory troop choices (6 if you count rippers).

2) On page 36 of the IG Codex under "Vehicle Upgrades", the improved comms upgrade mentions something called a "preliminary bombardment" when rerolling dice. WHAT is this? Sounds very interesting.

3) In the doctrines section of the codex, are special equipment the only things that every model possible MUST HAVE? If so, then can I, for example, give some squads the sharpshooter skill and not to others that can get it?


Thanks in advance for answering my questions.

[Psychichobo]

On the poorly worded platoon thing in the codex..

Basically, for one troop choice you can have a platoon. This consists of:

2-5 groups of nine men and a sargeant.

A command squad similar to the HQ commaned squad entry, but only with a junior officed allowed.

So that troop choice would be a minimum of 25 models.

Also not sure, but I think your troops choices must always be 50% Infantry Platoon. The other 50% can be made up of Armoured Fist Squads, Conscript Platoons, or another Infantry Platoon.

You also must have a Command squad for a HQ choice too, chosen from the HQ section. This can be upgraded without any restrictions, unlike the platoon command squads.


Yeah, it does mean you need a lot of models for a legal army... scary, no? Makes nids seem small.



I think for the doctrines, you don't have to give them to each squad, but I'm not sure. Bear in mind you will still pay a doctrine point for being able to use the doctrine, so you can't go overboard.

The preliminary bombardment thing may be an old rule - I'm not sure. It's a 3rd edition codex, so it might be referring to something that doesn't exist anymore...

[T Spear_Chucker]

Jul 9, 2008 23:45:06 GMT Psychichobo said:

Also not sure, but I think your troops choices must always be 50% Infantry Platoon. The other 50% can be made up of Armoured Fist Squads, Conscript Platoons, or another Infantry Platoon.

Never read anything like that in the codex.

psychichobo said:

The preliminary bombardment thing may be an old rule - I'm not sure. It's a 3rd edition codex, so it might be referring to something that doesn't exist anymore...

Awww.... damn. That sucks.

[Psychichobo]

Check the little boxes to the right of the conscript platoon and armoured fist descriptions, page 45. Basically one conscript platoon per infantry platoon, one armoured fist per infantry platoon. Might mean you can have one infantry platoon, one conscript platoon and one armoured fist, though...

[T Spear_Chucker]

Hmm... didn't see that. Well, I was planning on getting grenadier/stormtroopers instead of those anyways. Grenadiers aren't affected by this rule, are they?

[Psychichobo]

That was always something that I've pondered over. You mean using the stormtroopers as troops, 0-3 allowed doctrine? I think that rule doesn't conflict with the other rules, so you'll be fine.

Although I'm not sure if you can use that doctrine to have the grenadiers as the compulsory 2 troops in the Force Organisation Chart... best check with that one.

[zeewulf]

Yes, yes you can. Once you take grenadiers, the stormtroopers are troops, and you can use them as such. Now, one thing to remember: Stormtroopers-grenadiers are a total of 1 doctrine point. Also, there is no 'preliminary bombardments' that I've run into for normal IG, however improved comms does help for your reserves rolling and you can sometimes reroll scatter dice for barrage weapons.

Also, Skills and Drills items can be given to anyone you like as long as they fit the rules. However, Equipment (such as carapace armor) MUST be given to EVERY eligible squad.

[T Spear_Chucker]

Wait, stormtroopers combined with grenadiers count as 1 point or each count as 1 point?

[zeewulf]

When you take the doctrine Stormtroopers, the Grenadiers comes with it automatically. So together, it costs 1 Doctrine Point. As per the FAQ.

The FAQ is at uk.games-workshop.com/news/errata/assets/40k/old/imperial_guard_faq_v4-0.pdf

[WestRider]

Not quite. If you take the Grenadiers Doctrine, you may take 0-3 Storm Trooper Squads as Troops Choices. These may fill the required Troops slots, and you can, in fact have an army whose only Troops Units are Grenadiers. The Doctrine does not allow you to take Storm Trooper Squads as Elite Choices. The Restricted Units: Storm Troopers Doctrine does that.

Preliminary Bombardment is a rule used in certain special Scenarios. Any more, it most commonly shows up in Cities of Death games.