1700 points space marines.

[braytac]

hi,

i have a (casual) tournament coming up in 2 months.
and this is te list i am working on and i would like some opinions.
for what do i have to look out the most because i am not used to having a all out cc list.

wel here is the list and let me know what you all think.

Traits:
Seen, bunt dont be seen.
Take the fight to them.
(all marines have ccw/bp only the devastator hold there bolters)

HQ chaplin
jumpack BP frags melta boms
112

ELITES
8 man veteran squad
power weapon
powerfist
infiltrate
sarg powerfist
frags
222

ELITES
8 man veteran squad
power weapon
powerfist
infiltrate
sarg powerfist
frags
222

TROOPS
8 marines
powerfist sarg
meltagun
heavy bolter
Infiltrate
frags
197

8 marines
powerfist sarg
melta gun
heavy bolter
infiltrate
frags
197

8 marines
powerfist sarg
melta gun
heavy bolter
infiltrate
frags
197

FAST ATACK
8 assualt marines.
2 plasma pistols
sarg met powerfist
216

HEAVY SUPPORT
6 man devastator squad
3 ML
infiltrate
168

6 man devastator squad
3ml
infiltrate
168

totaal:1699

as you all can see EVRYTING has infiltrate ore can deepstrike on to the field.
zo i can deploy my force afther my oponent.
i already know that my first oponent whil be orks so some tips about killing orc could be handy.

[braytac]

nobody has anny coment on my list?

[braytac]

looks like my oponent choose to play demons in stead of orks.
now i have no expirience with demons and i only know that ze plays a nurgel list whit 2 soulgrinders 3x15 nurglings a demon prince, great unclean one. 3 beast of nurgel and nurgel troop things.

so does sombody have some tips on how to deal with it al

[Psychichobo]

Hmm, ok. I'm not too hot on Space Marine options, which is why I didn't comment on your list, but I've had some experience with Daemons.

First of all, I think the Soulgrinder's a bit overrated, though that's mainly as I've fought two daemon princes as the alternative and was terrified. Try and use those meltas straight onto those things, and their guns can be awkward.

Your opponent is going to be doing a similar trick to you - the entire deamon army deepstrikes in. Use yuor infitrators and find a good spot of cover to hide in, and pop those soulgrinders as soon as they appear - they have a horrific template weapon.

Nurglings are annoying due to their immunity to instant death, but they're still a swarm, so anything with a blast template I'd throw their way.

With Plaguebearers, assault them. Your armour save will help against their poison weapons, and use power weapons to deny them their Feel No Pain. They're annoying though, try and charge them and make sure there's no cover involved - take advantage of their poor initiative.

Beasts of nurgle might be annoying - try and train your melta's on them later. Str 8 should deny that Feel No Pain save, though you'll need a fair few shots due to their incapability to be instant deathed.

Daemon Prince is dangerous - use plasma, melta, whatever, just shoot that bugger down before it gets close. In combat it'll tear you apart.

As for the great unclean one... If you can try and get him last, maybe mob him down and try and use as many power weapons as possible to deny Feel No Pain.

I'm not a massive expert on these guys, but I've fought Nurgle Daemons with my Nids and I've seen what the new Daemon army can do. Good luck!