imperial fists 1500 pts please advice me

[pugbeast]

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Imperial fists Space marines 1500 pts

Hq: - 310
Space marines master – 120
Iron halo, plasma pistol, and power weapon
Command squad of five - 190
Heavy bolter x 1
Bolter x 1
Company champion x 1
Plasma cannon x 1
Sergeant - 60
Terminator honours, twin lightning claws
Elites: - 145
Venerable Dreadnought - 145
Twin Lascannon
Combat arm with storm bolter
Troops: - 443
Tactical squad of 10 - 180
Bolters x 3
Lascannon x 1
Sergeant - 30
Terminator honours
Scout squad of 5 – 78
Bolter x 2
Bolt pistol and close combat weapon x 2
Sergeant – 26
Terminator honours, shotgun
Tactical squad of 10 - 185
Bolters x 3
Plasma cannon x 1
Sergeant - 30
Terminator honours
Fast attack - 150
Assault squad of 5 - 150
Bolt pistol and close combat weapon x 2
Plasma pistol and close combat weapon x 2
Sergeant - 37
Terminator honours, power weapon, combat shield, bolt pistol
Heavy support – 435
Devastator squad of 5 – 165
Heavy bolter x 3
Plasma cannon x 1
Sergeant - 45
Terminator honours, storm bolter
Predator annihilator - 145
Twin linked lascannon
Predator annihilator – 130
Heavy bolters

[krakenfiend]

Well...couple of things....you say you are playing imperial fists...yet you did not take tank hunters on any squad...?

1. HQ...I think you've spent too many points here...I really like to run chapter masters by themselves with minimal equipment...as in just a storm bolter and a power weapon...the reason is...you are really interested his rites of battle ability...maybe give him an adamantine mantle so a stray lascannon shot does not smoke him.

2. Ven dread...ok I can see that....but..I really prefer to have him kitted out one of two ways: a) TL las-cannon and missile launcher with Tank hunter and extra armor or b) Assault cannon and CC arm with extra armor. This way you have a clearly defined role for him...either eat tanks or erase troops....

3. Troops...I'm not sure I like what you have here...I'm a big fan of boots on the ground for marines...lots of troops...especially since that is a big strength for marines. I always try to have at least 4 tactical squads when I run 1500 points and above. I'd think about Icing the scout squad and putting in more tactical squads. Also TANK HUNTERS!... This is the cool thing about Imperial Fists...You gave all your sergeants Terminator honors...but no power fist?...thats generally a no no for me...If they have terminator honors....get em something from the armory...I prefer power fists... Oh...think about giving your squads plasma guns too.

4. I love Space marine fast attacks...especially assault squads (I like boots on the ground). I used to take three plasma pistols in my squads (sergeant plus two guys)...but I found that they are not really survivable due to my uncanny ability to roll 1's with plasma pistols...so I decided to hand out flamers instead...Its AWESOME...the look on your opponents faces when you unleash hot death on their guys....then you assault the survivors...fun for the whole family...I do think that you should have more than 5 assault marines...I like two squads (Four FLAMERS!) of 7-8...I do like the sergeant set up you have..its close to the one I use.

5. Heavy support...not a big fan of pred annihilators...they are just so expensive...I am a fan of Dev squads(boots on the ground) with...you guessed it TANK HUNTERS...I really like multimeltas as their gun too...Lascannons work great too...(especially with TH). If I use preds...I always use the inexpensive pred destructor (a.k.a daka pred)...120 points for it...dumps buckets of dice on people...great at eating horde armies.

good start...just some tuning would make it very powerful...remember, Imperial Fists = Tank Hunters.

krakenfiend