Vs. Necrons v10.0

[yoritomo]

With the advent of 10th edition and the general army reset we are relaunching our Vs. Necrons thread.

The intent of this thread is for the community to pull all their ideas on how to beat Necrons and experiences our playing Necrons. If you are a new player please feel free to ask questions or if you are a veteran feel free to share your experiences or ideas on how to beat the Necrons.


On an administrative note: As this is a focused discussion the moderators reserve the right to delete off topic posts without warning.

[chillingworth]

Focus fire. Ignore Lynchguard if you can and focus fire. Deploy lictors midfield to stop the Necron player dumping a monolith midfield. Did I mention focus fire?

[vejby]

Genestealer and Brood lord in Vanguard Onslaught, assault cheesy un-killable warrior unit, use Assassin Beasts to give all attacks [precision], kill all characters in the unit and do it again when they use the strat to immediately resurrect the dead character during your activation. Profit when their anchor unit ceases to be a centre point. Bonus for remembering devastating wounds from the brood lord and assaulting warriors on an objective.

[piersonsmuppet]

Make sure you resolve the Brood Lord’s attacks first into the Technomancer to strip the 5+++ from the unit. The Overlord can take all the attacks from the GS/BL and potentially live with the FnP. Even if the Technomancer dies first, the GS will barely kill the Overlord and probably won’t have enough to put it down a second time. This is fine into a Warrior blob, but very risky into a Lynchguard blob.

[shadowfinder]

Kill the cryptec of any flavor first.

If you have a norn or a have him targe the cryptek with shooting first than assault with genestlears or the von ryans. 30 to 40 attacks will kill most things.I been running in deathleaper or other lictors to make sure the characters die. Been working fine. Even vs lytchguard. I just run awaynest tuen to hit something else and let the exocrine and norns hit them with blast attacks.

What other units in the Necron army should be top targets to tie-up/kill? Doomstalkers? Ranged destroyers?

[chillingworth]

PROTOCOL OF THE ETERNAL GUARDIAN.

Scenario: Unit of Genestealers attack a Necron warrior blob. That blob has a leader. The Genestealer unit is given ASSASSIN BEASTS (precision). Half way through the Genestealers attacks the leader dies. What comes first; The Necrons with PROTOCOL OF THE ETERNAL GUARDIAN and bring the leader back on the table with half wounds or Genestealers resolve the rest of their attacks?

[piersonsmuppet]

Well, thanks to GWs lack of consistency, we have “just destroyed” instead of “just after destroyed”. I think it falls in line with the commentary though, which states that abilities with “just after” (or “just” in this case) can interrupt the attack sequence. So when the Protocol of the Eternal Guardian is used, it will interrupt the resolution of attacks and place the destroyed character back on the battlefield. Since attacks with precision have to all be allocated before saving throws, all those attacks should still be allocated to it OR you re-allocate the attacks that were un-allocated due to the character being destroyed (either way the character can still get slapped after reviving).

If the ability was supposed to circumvent this, it would have had “after the attacking unit finishes making attacks”.

[jean]

Okay so my friend plans on picking up Lokhust Heavy destroyers, and their gauss destructor is absolutely insane. 1 attack 3+bs -14ap d6 [heavy, sustained hits]. 150 points for 3 models. How in god's name am I supposed to deal with that? It's range is 48" so I potentially can't even use my Exocrine against it if they're deep in the enemy's deployment zone. All I can think of is a Trygon, who will probably be blasted by them anyway before a charge

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Hiding from them is a good option

You can also use venomthropes to give out stealth to infantry.

What detachment or list are you running?

[jean]

Mar 26, 2024 19:56:13 GMT hivefleetkerrigan said:

Hiding from them is a good option

You can also use venomthropes to give out stealth to infantry.

What detachment or list are you running?

I've only played Invasion fleet and Crusher stampede so far, in 1K games. My core setup includes a Haruspex, Exocrine, Neurotyrant, and often a T-fex/Tervigon. Barbgaunts, gargoyles, winged T-prime, Von Ryan's leapers and termagants for smaller units and occasionally a Norn emissary. So yeah a very generalized, monster heavy army.

I don't see how I could hide from the heavy destroyers if I wanna get to no man's land to get objectives. Today I played a game with my friend where I ran Haru, Exo, Norn, NT, Screamer-killer and a T-fex with a rupture cannon. I won quite easily, but all fighting happened inside a big ruin in the center, and if he had had 2 lokhust heavies outside the ruins, he could've sniped all of my monsters in the middle to death

If I start with an Exocrine having LoS on the heavy destroyers, and he gets to start, my Exocrine might just blow up T1 and I lose. If I hide from them, they'll be able to mitigate all of my midfield monster and elite presence very effectively...but I like to and want to play at least some big monsters and elites

[hivefleetkerrigan]

Make sure you have enough terrain. Having full LOS on a unit in someone's deployment makes it easier to lose a game on the turn 1 roll off. You can always invest in a redeploy enhancement if desired. That way you can bait him and then move your units if you lose the turn 1 roll off.