Vs. Space Marines v10.0

[yoritomo]

With the advent of 10th edition and the general army reset we are relaunching our Vs. Space Marines thread.

The intent of this thread is for the community to pull all their ideas on how to beat Space Marines and experiences our playing Space Marines. If you are a new player please feel free to ask questions or if you are a veteran feel free to share your experiences or ideas on how to beat Space Marines.


On an administrative note: As this is a focused discussion the moderators reserve the right to delete off topic posts without warning.

[jackshrapnel]

Looking for some advice. Playing in a league and I've been doing quite well with my all comers invasion fleet list:

Hive Tyrant with FNP enhancement
Deathleaper
Old one eye

5 barbgaunts
5 barbgaunts
Neurolictor
Neurolictor
6 zoans
6 zoans
pyrovore
Pyrovore
Ripper swarm
Ripper swarm

Norn Emissary
Maleceptor
Exocrine
Exocrine

unfortunately my next opponent is playing the new Ironstorm spearhead detachment for space marines and I honestly do not know how to tackle this. There's an insane amount of rerolls and 72" range on the executioners and gladiators, so there's only terrain to try and utilize to stay safe. Only shooting not wounding his army on 5's are the zoans (who are wounding executioners on 4's).

I guess lethal hits on 6's is the play with invasion fleet (as there's almost no infantry for sustained and precision doesn't really work here). But not sure how to play into this. It kinda feels like as soon as the zoans stick their heads out to shoot they're going to get evaporated.

Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Here's his list (and we're both locked in prior to the matchup so have to play our lists with no changes)



Ironstorm spearhead (reroll one hit, wound, or damage to every unit)

Lieutenant with master of machine war (aura of fall back/advance and shoot)
Techmarine with target augury web (lethal hits aura)
Techmarine with adept of the omnissiah (aura of blank a damage to zero)

Ballistus Dreadnought
Ballistus Dreadnought
Gladiator Lancer
Gladiator Lancer
Gladiator Lancer
Gladiator Valiant

Repulsor Executioner
Repulsor Executioner
Repulsor Executioner

scouts
scouts
scouts