Vs. Custodes v10.0

[yoritomo]

With the advent of 10th edition and the general army reset we are relaunching our Vs. Custodes thread.

The intent of this thread is for the community to pull all their ideas on how to beat Custodes and experiences our playing Custodes. If you are a new player please feel free to ask questions or if you are a veteran feel free to share your experiences or ideas on how to beat Custodes.


On an administrative note: As this is a focused discussion the moderators reserve the right to delete off topic posts without warning.

[coelo]

Hello!I am a new player, and my cousin who I am learning this hobby with choose Custodes, should I focus more on monsters? Or infantry? Currently I have physophage, tyrannofex with acid spray, 20 termaguants, 3 con Ryan leapers, a winged tyranid prime, broodlord and 8 genestealers and 2 ripper swarms.

Thanks in advance for any help!

[nidsallday]

Aug 27, 2023 13:47:43 GMT coelo said:

Hello!I am a new player, and my cousin who I am learning this hobby with choose Custodes, should I focus more on monsters? Or infantry? Currently I have physophage, tyrannofex with acid spray, 20 termaguants, 3 con Ryan leapers, a winged tyranid prime, broodlord and 8 genestealers and 2 ripper swarms.

Thanks in advance for any help!

banana bois are a tough nut to crack. they are super strong in melee so on primary its hard to contest with them. id suggest an exocrine, has a nice profile into custodes. barbs might also suit you well because a whole lot of custodes are infantery you can slow down nicely that way. biovores for super easy secondaries are a must-have as long as spore mines are elegible to do actions.
all in all id suggest to focus on shooting as with their fights first strat they will wreck you before you get to swing (especially if he is playing 10-stacks).

[yoritomo]

Custodies are very good at punching big things but not great at shooting them. This means there are two ways to deal with them.

The first is to drown them in bodies. Their shooting is good against gaunts; but they won’t have nearly enough shots to deal with a true horde. They will murder your gaunts when they get into close combat. However, if he’s doing 3 wounds to kill your gaunts then he’s wasting his points. Considering you get what, four gaunts for every custodie, all you’d need to do is sit on objectives and let your objective control win you the game while he keeps removing your gaunts

If you’re going to go the monster route then you need to keep them away from those custodians. Gaunt screens and big guns are the way to go here. You’ll need to put as many shots on them as you can to get through there 2+ save. Use the gaunt screen to keep those custodies out of charge range. If you can get home to take enough armor saves he will start failing them.

One thing you need to watch out for are cheap allies that hold objectives. His custodies are going to earn him any victory points unless he draws a kill a unit tactical objective. If you can play the mission and knock out his back rank objective holders then you should be able to squeak a victory in despite being almost tabled.

[coelo]

Aug 27, 2023 17:44:10 GMT yoritomo said:

Custodies are very good at punching big things but not great at shooting them. This means there are two ways to deal with them.

The first is to drown them in bodies. Their shooting is good against gaunts; but they won’t have nearly enough shots to deal with a true horde. They will murder your gaunts when they get into close combat. However, if he’s doing 3 wounds to kill your gaunts then he’s wasting his points. Considering you get what, four gaunts for every custodie, all you’d need to do is sit on objectives and let your objective control win you the game while he keeps removing your gaunts

If you’re going to go the monster route then you need to keep them away from those custodians. Gaunt screens and big guns are the way to go here. You’ll need to put as many shots on them as you can to get through there 2+ save. Use the gaunt screen to keep those custodies out of charge range. If you can get home to take enough armor saves he will start failing them.

One thing you need to watch out for are cheap allies that hold objectives. His custodies are going to earn him any victory points unless he draws a kill a unit tactical objective. If you can play the mission and knock out his back rank objective holders then you should be able to squeak a victory in despite being almost tabled.

I see, thank you for the strategies! I already got a tyrannofex as a good range monster and I am using acid spray as I mentioned, and I will also invest in more (new ones) termagaunt boxes when they release then. Thank you!

[coelo]

Aug 27, 2023 14:30:32 GMT nidsallday said:

Aug 27, 2023 13:47:43 GMT coelo said:

Hello!I am a new player, and my cousin who I am learning this hobby with choose Custodes, should I focus more on monsters? Or infantry? Currently I have physophage, tyrannofex with acid spray, 20 termaguants, 3 con Ryan leapers, a winged tyranid prime, broodlord and 8 genestealers and 2 ripper swarms.

Thanks in advance for any help!

banana bois are a tough nut to crack. they are super strong in melee so on primary its hard to contest with them. id suggest an exocrine, has a nice profile into custodes. barbs might also suit you well because a whole lot of custodes are infantery you can slow down nicely that way. biovores for super easy secondaries are a must-have as long as spore mines are elegible to do actions.
all in all id suggest to focus on shooting as with their fights first strat they will wreck you before you get to swing (especially if he is playing 10-stacks).

Sounds good, i also got no good melee beside the ones from the starter box, thanks for the help!

[livewithpurpose]

Best tech for custodes I've found is a carnifex squad with 2x twin desthspitters on both with old one eye. AP-2 brings them to invuln without cover and they can't use the cheesy -1D strat to negate the mass 1 Damage wounds. It averages like 16 saves at AP-2 against the standard bricks without using the shorter range profiles also.

[garg]

That doesn't seem right since you're getting 24 shots at 4+ with full rrs that should be 18 hits going to 12 saving throws. It is also expensive points wise.
I would say that exocrine and zoanthrophes being our answer to most things are good options.

[yoritomo]

If you want to kill them then yeah, exocrine and zoanthropes are the way to go. Remember, these are expensive units. Every turn they are not killing a monster or scoring an objective they are not preforming well enough to win the game. Sometimes winning isn’t about killing your opponent. Sometimes just frustrating your opponent is enough for you to win the day.

[shadowfinder]

Is it possible to or worth hunting there characters out of units? Vanguard has precision for units with lots of attacks. Say first turn?