2k Jormangandr List - Another Take

[azarea18]

Working on a new list, getting away from mass warrior spam and trying out Jorm with NatCamo.

++ Battalion Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [98 PL, 3CP, 2,000pts] ++

+ Configuration +
Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)
Detachment Command Cost
Game Type: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim

Hive Fleet: (Lurk) Naturalised Camouflage, Jormungandr

+ Stratagems +
Hive Predator [-2CP]: 2x Extra Warlord Trait
Rarefied Enhancements [-1CP]: Extra Bio-artefact

+ No Force Org Slot +
Tyrant Guard [8 PL, 120pts]
. 3x Tyrant Guard (Scything): 3x Two Rending Claws, 3x Two Scything Talons

Zoanthropes [7 PL, 150pts]: 3x Zoanthrope

+ HQ +
Neurothrope [5 PL, 100pts]: Power: Lurking Maws, Power: Neuroparasite, Power: Paroxysm, Power: Smite

Old One Eye [11 PL, 235pts]: Warlord Trait: Adaptive Biology

Winged Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 210pts]: Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Power: Catalyst, Power: Lurking Maws, Power: Onslaught, Power: Smite, Relic: The Reaper of Obilterax, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Heightened Senses

+ Troops +
Gargoyles [4 PL, 80pts]
. 10x Gargoyle: 10x Fleshborer

Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 170pts]: Adrenal Glands
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 200pts]: Adrenal Glands
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords

+ Heavy Support +
Carnifexes [14 PL, 310pts]
. Carnifex: Chitin Thorns, Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Spore Cysts, Two Carnifex Scything Talons
. Carnifex: Chitin Thorns, Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Spore Cysts, Two Carnifex Scything Talons

Tyrannofex [11 PL, 210pts]: Adaptive Physiology: Synaptic Enhancement, Adrenal Glands, Rupture Cannon

Tyrannofex [11 PL, 215pts]: Adaptive Physiology: Voracious Ammunition, Adrenal Glands, Rupture Cannon

++ Total: [98 PL, 3CP, 2,000pts] ++

Played against local Iron Warriors player yesterday.  Had no idea what army he was going to field so was surprised when I found out.  They of course negated my Jorm cover benefits so that was....fun.  But thankfully I was able to go first and had some really good shots from the 'fexes into his army to get some stuff off the board.  Pretty much was downhill from there from him and I won 97-32.

Looking for any suggestions that may be had on how I can better edit this list as it's still early in testing.

[piersonsmuppet]

Why not go Territorial? You’ve got the monsters to make better use of it than Nat Camo (especially since Votann is now being played).

[dkng]

You can also consider Direct Guidance trait on Neuro (as you didn't get him neither Barb nor SynTendrils) to further augment Fexes and Warriors. Not a must-have but worth giving a thought about. A HVC Fex hitting on 2s rerolling 1s (from HT) is nasty. This could also make Rupture cannons less important in the list so you can swap one of them for the spray and play the big guy more aggressively - this would be perfect with Territorial as pierson suggested.
Edit: speaking about Neuro - Catalyst, Onslaught and Paroxysm are your most important powers so those should be always on the Neuro. If you don't take ResBarb then I'd say Catalyst should always bo on the BBB (Big Brain Bug) and the choice between Onslaught and Paroxysm is more taste / meta dependent. Paroxysm is the most difficult to cast at WC 7.

[azarea18]

Heard about Territorial from some others too. Thinking that's what I will do.

And thanks for advice on powers. I was using my Neuro for Physic Int during my last game so didn't really get to use his powers; used the HT for main stuff. The Direct Guidance on the Neuro also makes a lot of sense. I hadn't thought of that.

I haven't used my Tfexes since 7th, so wasn't comfortable yet playing them but after my pick-up game I feel better and do actually want to try the spray sometime so I'll probably do that too. Thinking I may drop a warrior and couple upgrades to fit maybe a biovore or two in as well. Just to help crowd control for my aggressive monsters.

[dkng]

Spore mines are fantastic for screening against psypowers. If you take the Spray Fex he'll be in the thick of it so consider 4++ on him. If not, Voracious Ammo is always welcome on this big boi. He'll also be the prime target for Catalyst. Oh and never forget to shoot into melee with him whenever he's engaged

[piersonsmuppet]

Also consider swapping Heightened Senses for Direct Guidance on the Tyrant. Senses doesn't really do much as the Tyrant already is WS2+ w/ rr1's. The saved CP will let you run Barb on the Neuro, which is very good when running only 1x Neuro.

I'd also drop AG from the Tfexes and Thorns from Cfexes to put TS on the Tyrant and Dermic on a Tfex.

[azarea18]

After some updating, this is what I got. Going to be play testing it this weekend.


++ Patrol Detachment 0CP (Tyranids) [69 PL, 2CP, 1,325pts] ++
+ Configuration +
Battle Size [6CP]: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points)
Detachment Command Cost
Game Type: 4. Chapter Approved: War Zone Nephilim
Hive Fleet: (Lurk) Territorial Instincts, Jormungandr

+ Stratagems +
Hive Predator [-2CP]: 2x Extra Warlord Trait
Rarefied Enhancements [-2CP]: 2x Extra Bio-artefact

+ No Force Org Slot +
Tyrant Guard [8 PL, 120pts]
. 3x Tyrant Guard (Scything): 3x Two Rending Claws, 3x Two Scything Talons

Zoanthropes [7 PL, 150pts]: Power: Neuroparasite, Power: Smite, 3x Zoanthrope

+ HQ +
Neurothrope [5 PL, 100pts]: Power: Catalyst, Power: Lurking Maws, Power: Onslaught, Power: Smite, Warlord Trait: Direct Guidance
. Relic: Resonance Barb: Power: Paroxysm

Winged Hive Tyrant [11 PL, 210pts]: Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Power: Catalyst, Power: Lurking Maws, Power: Paroxysm, Power: Smite, Relic: The Reaper of Obilterax, Warlord

+ Troops +
Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 170pts]: Adrenal Glands
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon

Tyranid Warriors [8 PL, 170pts]: Adrenal Glands
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Deathspitter, Dual Boneswords
. Tyranid Warrior: Dual Boneswords, Venom Cannon

+ Heavy Support +
Tyrannofex [12 PL, 215pts]: Acid Spray, Adaptive Physiology: Dermic Symbiosis

Tyrannofex [10 PL, 190pts]: Rupture Cannon

++ Patrol Detachment -2CP (Tyranids) [35 PL, -2CP, 675pts] ++
+ Configuration +
Detachment Command Cost [-2CP]
Hive Fleet: (Lurk) Territorial Instincts, Jormungandr

+ HQ +
Old One Eye [11 PL, 235pts]: Warlord Trait: Adaptive Biology

+ Troops +
Gargoyles [4 PL, 80pts]
. 10x Gargoyle: 10x Fleshborer

+ Heavy Support +
Biovores [6 PL, 90pts]: Show Spore Mine Rules
. 2x Biovore: 2x Chitin-barbed Fists, 2x Spore Mine Launcher

Carnifexes [14 PL, 270pts]
. Carnifex: Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Carnifex Scything Talons
. Carnifex: Enhanced Senses, Heavy Venom Cannon, Two Carnifex Scything Talons

++ Total: [104 PL, 2,000pts] ++

[piersonsmuppet]

I don't think the biovores are worth the 2CP required to run the 2nd patrol. You lose the Deepstrike for the Acidfex, Carnifex unit, and/or the Warriors, which is a huge benefit from running Jorm (it is up there with Kraken's strat for best in the codex imo). I'd favor Voracious Ammo on the Rupturefex, Cysts on the Carnifex, and various other upgrades.