Surviving first turn...

[wormlord666]

I have been facing a few very competative lists recently. They all have that in common that they shoot heavily on long range or can get in your face fast and shoot a lot. (Knights, Tau, agressors with infiltrate, predators)

This is devatsting to me. I usually run stealers, hiveguards, fexes and flyrants. After first turn (which they usually get sue to +1) I have lost a few of my units and have a long way to run. Before beta I usually popped out from reserves but thats less attractive now. What do you think, is a beta-strike with the usually suspects of trygons and flyrants possible? Seems like a cointoss with the charge even with Behemot.. Does this work competativly?



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[kazetanade]

For long range shooters, deepstrike is amazing. I use Swarmlord + GS + Deepstrike shooters for long range engagement.

For fast in your face infiltrators, you need to screen and hike back appropriately. Aggressors dont hurt if you're 18" out, which you will be with appropriate positioning behind your foremost screen (9" then 9.1" behind). For alpha legion or electropriests, you need to be 10" back so they cant declare charge on you, and shooters have to be even further back in that case to avoid the bad touch.

For midrange engagements, you dont need many more tricks than Nid standard affair.

If you have ratlings, then stopping infiltrators is a little bit easier again. Just careful not to get wrapped.

[devilrules]

and take a malbathrope or two for the sweet -1, and make use of cover or take jorm if you know they are going to move towards you (so speed isnt too much of an issue)

[mattblowers]

More. Line. Of. Sight. Blocking. Terrain.

It's almost like we've been over this.

[burd]

Aug 1, 2018 12:18:06 GMT mattblowers said:

More. Line. Of. Sight. Blocking. Terrain.

It's almost like we've been over this.

Yes we have. its just a shame that most tables @ local shops cater to gunline WWI style armies in my experiences anyway. And when something is said about MCs not having anywhere to hide on 80% of the board . That 1 building in the middle that your big bugs never make it to because 5-9" movement. Furthermore inceptors with assault bolters/plasma are disgusting for most of our stuff

[mattblowers]

Volunteer to help build terrain for their table tops. The tables at the London GT looked terrible, but everyone said how well they actually worked. Those are pretty simple to make too.

[Zod42]

As above.

If where you play does not have adequate terrain, build or bring your own. They may want you to try to configure an army to work on planet bowling ball, but that only really works for some factions. Especially if the opposition is dedicated to really competitive lists.

[burd]

What I find that works pretty well. Styrofoam from a computer/TV box with a couple of choice breaks some added weight to the bases and nice paint looks like ruined buildings quite easily accomplished . Just have to brush the first coat on so not to melt the foam. Wish the $700 terrain pack wasnt WSE as to get a 15% off at the LGS. Also 4" PVC busted apart and appoxyed to a plastic base makes for very nice GSC fluff terrain. Painted and textured of course

[gigasnail]

biggest tip is what folks have said: deploy intelligently and don't stand in the open. you can make great terrain out of literal scrap and trash, while slowly building your collection of GW plastic terrain kits if you like.

[generalbuttnaked]

A great cheap terrain set is the one from the new kill team. You will be able to buy ,what is quite a lot of good quality terrain, for around £30 on ebay. This terrain is probs about half of what u need for a 6 x 4 table but its definitely a great start.