FHT, x4 Devs or Devs and MRC.

[harleyxjguy]

Steady working on my army getting it ready for the Michigan GT.

Decided to add another Flying Hive Tyrant because why wouldn’t you.

This got me thinking which way to go with there weapons?

X4 Devourers for the sweet interaction with the plus one wound strat and the always hit on three warlord trait or the trait that lets me pick a data slate for re rolls.

Then again maybe two devourers and MRC so they could be better against flyers in melee and less need to use a warlord trait on them. Just make my hidden Neurothrope the warlord to protect VPs.

[almostmercury]

Devourers do not work with the wound strat. That’s for fleshborers only, which I believe are fleshborers and fleshborer hive.

Anyway, I’ve used only two configurations, which are devs and claws or HVC and claws. I’m currently going back to devs and claws and ALMOST went devs and HVC.

[kazetanade]

If you're expecting a LOT of infantry and you dont have much more anti-infantry, then X4 Devs would be my call. If you have other anti-infantry or expect less infantry, gun/MRC combos with -1 relic with rerolls vs dataslate(if you like).

Problem with Neuro warlord traits is they have only 2 useful ones; Insidious Threat and Soul Hunger, SH only if it gets danger close so that's not really helpful either. HTs are sadly the best recipient of almost every warlord trait we have access to. Trading to Neuro WL means you trade a WLTrait for safety.

Good luck with the GT!

[harleyxjguy]

Jun 10, 2018 14:39:44 GMT almostmercury said:

Devourers do not work with the wound strat. That’s for fleshborers only, which I believe are fleshborers and fleshborer hive.

Anyway, I’ve used only two configurations, which are devs and claws or HVC and claws. I’m currently going back to devs and claws and ALMOST went devs and HVC.

Sorry I was not clear.

Not the Fleshborer strat but the strat that lets Monsters do an extra damage.

[harleyxjguy]

Jun 10, 2018 14:45:23 GMT kazetanade said:

If you're expecting a LOT of infantry and you dont have much more anti-infantry, then X4 Devs would be my call. If you have other anti-infantry or expect less infantry, gun/MRC combos with -1 relic with rerolls vs dataslate(if you like).

Problem with Neuro warlord traits is they have only 2 useful ones; Insidious Threat and Soul Hunger, SH only if it gets danger close so that's not really helpful either. HTs are sadly the best recipient of almost every warlord trait we have access to. Trading to Neuro WL means you trade a WLTrait for safety.

Good luck with the GT!

Yes giving a WL trait to the Neuro is for safety. To bad none of them are worthwhile since I am running a Kraken list.

Running two units of 20 GS and the Swarmlord who should be able to handle infantry pretty well.

[kazetanade]

Personally I'd go with HVC/MRC then (my meta is light on infantry other than a few specific guys), or 1 Dev/MRC and 1 HVC/MRC. Give one the -1 to hit and the other Miasma Cannon.

Doubling down on either is still very powerful, so whichever you think is more useful, but definitely take MRC since GS will take care of any anti-infantry you need in a pinch.

If you're lucky you might be able to use the SL/Flyrant/Flyrant combo vs the new Knight army and hopefully it works. My answer to them is 3 x 6 Zoeys, FML where am i gonna find 18 of the buggers...

[almostmercury]

For d3 shots the miasma cannon is... lacklustre.

Okay, +1 is a completely different animal than +1 damage.

For the neurothrope, my go to has been synaptic lynchpin, which I think is great. Didn’t do anything in my 3 fex spearhead so I’d just put it on my Malanthrope instead.

I don’t like to have flyrants as my warlord because warlord traits themselves aren’t impactful enough to warrant the victory point from killing an HT.

[harleyxjguy]

Jun 10, 2018 15:54:42 GMT almostmercury said:

For d3 shots the miasma cannon is... lacklustre.

Okay, +1 is a completely different animal than +1 damage.

For the neurothrope, my go to has been synaptic lynchpin, which I think is great. Didn’t do anything in my 3 fex spearhead so I’d just put it on my Malanthrope instead.

I don’t like to have flyrants as my warlord because warlord traits themselves aren’t impactful enough to warrant the victory point from killing an HT.

Seeing how everyone here seems to know more about Tyranids then I do I thought I would take another look at Synaptic Lynchpin.

I always though this only affected IB but can not find anything that says this. Was I wrong this whole time or maybe I am missing something in a FAQ?

[almostmercury]

Lynchpin adds 6" to synapse, so you have a fearless bubble that's 18" on a neurothrope instead of 12" (24" on a hive tyrant). The Norn Crown is the one that adds 6" to instinctive behaviour but takes your relic slot. Good in certain builds, but not worth taking over Chameleonic for the -1.

[kazetanade]

almostmercury the miasma cannon is fine as an upgrade; if you have issues it should be with the HVC, which i can't tell if its overcost or not but its not a poor weapon. Its main thing is 2+ to wound on anything not a vehicle and 3+ to wound on most vehicles; pair with MRC for a decent elite/tank hunter. Autohit is just icing for me.

Now if you think HVCs are bad, that's a different discussion. My double Devs have been great but only in 72++shots volume tbh.

Its not worth the 1st slot of relics (which are always Norn Crown or Cham Mut for me), but its a close 2nd for cp relic if you're willing to spend, and if you're already bringing a HVC.

I actually really like the ignore Hit penalties WLT, which in my opinion is useful against a fair few armies, and the reroll one dataslate is situationally good (as is Soul Hunger) but its not a mustpick. I definitely would never place WL on a Flyrant for ITC.

Synaptic Lynchpin is a usable WLT for a Kraken / Kronos Neurothrope yes. My recent test lists have not had a lot of synapse requirements though so its never popped up as relevant. It was extremely relevant for my Kronos list though since the neurothrope actually moved around a lot.

[harleyxjguy]

Jun 10, 2018 16:18:07 GMT almostmercury said:

Lynchpin adds 6" to synapse, so you have a fearless bubble that's 18" on a neurothrope instead of 12" (24" on a hive tyrant). The Norn Crown is the one that adds 6" to instinctive behaviour but takes your relic slot. Good in certain builds, but not worth taking over Chameleonic for the -1.

Kraken Relic in my list is so much an auto take.

Having a Neuro with an 18” Synapse is also amazing as often turn two Swarmy will Hivemind himself forward and with my Neuro advancing every turn behind the Stealers my poor HG and Venomthropes could get left behind out of Synapse.

[almostmercury]

I usually run Kraken with stealers and have a neurothrope with catalyst for them. When the neuro is Kraken, the warlord trait is gold.

[wcgnidz]

I'd say if you're doing jorm mid-field shooty, all devs isnt bad.

Otherwise devs +MRC

[harleyxjguy]

So running a Kraken list with Swarmlord and 40 Genestealers I lean to running my two FHT with MRC and x2 Devourers.

Toxin Sacs and or Adrenal Glands?

Opinons and why you feel the way you do,

[kazetanade]

AG should always be there. TS is ok since you have reroll to wounds on them but if short of points you can drop them safely.