FAQ effects

[leviathanswarmlord]

What will the effects of the FAQ be on tyranid players at all levels. Biovores are up to 50 ppm so will they still be as viable, and flyrants are up 20 points and the number of them is limited depending on the number of points you are playing. Any thoughts?

[Indominus]

Well, we will definitely be seeing no flyrant spam anymore, and I think now they are reasonably costed for how good they are. However, with the change to DS I think they will still be used to great effectiveness. as for Biovores, still great at doing MW and camping on objectives. I am happy with the points changes, but it seems everyone else is moaning about the change to DS and the unchargeable units on top of buildings.

[leviathanswarmlord]

Apr 17, 2018 8:48:06 GMT Indominus said:

Well, we will definitely be seeing no flyrant spam anymore, and I think now they are reasonably costed for how good they are. However, with the change to DS I think they will still be used to great effectiveness. as for Biovores, still great at doing MW and camping on objectives. I am happy with the points changes, but it seems everyone else is moaning about the change to DS and the unchargeable units on top of buildings.

Yeah, gunlines will be hell with no turn 1 deep striking and no charges up buildings to threaten them. Shooty meta is looking likely

[wormlord666]

Hive crones might return. 30” inch move gets you there and gives your 2:turn charge. The CP bonus for brigades and battalions will propably affect the builds as well.

[niiai]

I think maybe we will see 2x Malanthrope lists. Fog all around.

[Hive Bahamut]

I see nothing helping any of our units that needed it to address why people spammed Flyrants. I'm not even a Tournie player and I can understand that nerfing without buffing just leads to us going back to 7th! Oh wait we can't because that was spam banned, because they already did that! D'oh! People are stupid.. You want competent AND balanced? Welcome to the downfall of humanity. You can't have both.

In all seriousness it is starting to look that way again though. GW has neutered 4 of our HQ now, with the rest still looking like a poopy pants party. Why on earth would I ever take the Prime/Tervigon/Old One Eye/Broodlord. OH that's right! Because GW is pricing the rest out of usability.

[N.I.B.]

The main point adjustments will be in the Chapter Approved, as per usual. The FAQ adjustments are a kind of an emergency balance kit.

[devilrules]

what about the battle brothers rule, from my understanding to be battleforged, we can no londer take multi faction lists. Is this what other people get from this?

[tomcaet]

Army composition doesn't change, only individual detachments need to be clean. We hardly use Tyranids soup detachments as we'd lose Adaptations in Hive Fleet ones and Cult Ambush and Brood Brothers in Genestealer Cults. Unless you use a Tyranids detachment for e.g. getting an even cheaper Brigade using GSC Acolyte Iconwards for HQ in an otherwise Hive Fleet detachment - such a detachment isn't battle-forged anymore - Battle Brothers doesn't affect you.

[mattblowers]

Apr 18, 2018 8:10:20 GMT N.I.B. said:

The main point adjustments will be in the Chapter Approved, as per usual. The FAQ adjustments are a kind of an emergency balance kit.

What was the emergency that made them bump the points on biovores? I never saw that one coming.

[tomcaet]

Maybe they confused them with Hive Guard.

[mattblowers]

Apr 18, 2018 13:34:01 GMT tomcaet said:

Maybe they confused them with Hive Guard.

Funny. I actually thought that. Rumor was they said Hive Guard needed some attention. Maybe they did confuse them.

GW FAQ rules writers: "Which unit is a problem?"

GW team:"You know, the tyranid unit that can shoot without LOS."

GW FAQ rules writers: "You mean the biovore?"

GW team: "Yeah that must be it, it has a goofy looking face and big gun."

GW FAQ rules writers: "That's the biovore, we'll increase it's points by about 30%."

GW team: "That should do it."

[killercroc]

Apr 17, 2018 19:30:53 GMT Hive Bahamut said:

In all seriousness it is starting to look that way again though. GW has neutered 4 of our HQ now, with the rest still looking like a poopy pants party. Why on earth would I ever take the Prime/Tervigon/Old One Eye/Broodlord. OH that's right! Because GW is pricing the rest out of usability.

I'm unsure if I missed something in the FAQ but what was the big nerf to our HQs? I know Neuros get that +1 to smite, Walkrants didn't change (but they're meh to begin with), Flyrants went up 20 so not a huge nerf, Tervigons were always trash, Broodlord and Prime while both overcosted are still usable and the FAQ doesn't change them, OOE looks the same to me, and Swarmy you just cannot push a unit that just appeared but you can push a unit on the board so not nerfed just changed who you target.

[devilrules]

Apr 18, 2018 14:43:55 GMT killercroc said:

Apr 17, 2018 19:30:53 GMT Hive Bahamut said:

In all seriousness it is starting to look that way again though. GW has neutered 4 of our HQ now, with the rest still looking like a poopy pants party. Why on earth would I ever take the Prime/Tervigon/Old One Eye/Broodlord. OH that's right! Because GW is pricing the rest out of usability.

I'm unsure if I missed something in the FAQ but what was the big nerf to our HQs? I know Neuros get that +1 to smite, Walkrants didn't change (but they're meh to begin with), Flyrants went up 20 so not a huge nerf, Tervigons were always trash, Broodlord and Prime while both overcosted are still usable and the FAQ doesn't change them, OOE looks the same to me, and Swarmy you just cannot push a unit that just appeared but you can push a unit on the board so not nerfed just changed who you target.

smite spam also huts flyrants, but im ok with it. also max number of 3 in a 2k game hurts cheese lists.

[killercroc]

Ehh, personally I am not bothered by 3 datasheet cap because I've never fielded more than 3 units of anything. Though I can see it as annoying for the people who have multiple non-squadron vehicles that now can only field 3 of them, or someone with a themed list of all bikers that cannot run them anymore.