Flyrant heavy 2k

[thejarbo]

Battalion Detachment +3CP, Kraken

Hive Tyrant, Adrenal Glands, Lash Whip and Monstrous Bonesword, Toxin Sacs, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings
LW/BS is upgraded to reaper, damage 8 on a 6 to wound is my big stuff killer (played one game and did decent, still experimenting)

Hive Tyrant, Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Rending Claws, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

Hive Tyrant, Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Rending Claws, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

15 Genestealers

15x Genestealers

3x Ripper Swarm

Battalion Detachment +3CP, Kronos

Hive Tyrant 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings
Warlord: soul hunger

Neurothrope

15x Termagant

10x Termagant

10x Termagant

2x Biovore

1x Biovore

Exocrine
Huge target, may drop?

6 Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon

Total: [116 PL, 1999pts]

[lennysfury]

Seems pretty good, the one thing i would change is your warlord. Make the neuro the warlord so he can’t be targeted. A shooty army will drop a flyrant in one turn.

[nidzy]

I think you are right on the one exo, too easy of a target choice compared to the 4++ on flyrants. You can make those points another flyrant, potentially even adding another biovore in the process. Or fill out your stealer squads.

I would skip the reaper upgrade for chameleonic mutation. That -1 to hit is choice.

I have been running a list similar to this. Stealers die fast but are so fun to play in Kraken that I keep taking them. Just be aware that if you reserve the flyrants and don't go first, they are likely toast.

[burd]

Also the flyrant would only do 7 damage on 6s not 8 because the Damage is doubled from the weapon and then the +1 from TS. Also take Deathspitters the -1 is more important that the 3 more shots specially when bringing this many Tyrants. Just my thoughts on it.

[irondreddknight]

I’ve got so much love for the exocrine, so I’d say take it! Something will inevitably be shot down turn one, at least with the he exocrine with its toughness 8 is gonna soak up a lot of the fire power befor it dies. Leaving your flyrants in touched. My suggestion would be add a malanthrope somewhere to soak up more fire power and hopefully survive the first turn.

Alternatively, keep the exocrine out of LOS (if possible) move it into position and use onslaught to avoid the penalties. This keeps it alive, but leaves your flyrants to be targeted. Again, the malanthrope helps here.

[devilrules]

Feb 13, 2018 13:18:30 GMT irondreddknight said:

I’ve got so much love for the exocrine, so I’d say take it! Something will inevitably be shot down turn one, at least with the he exocrine with its toughness 8 is gonna soak up a lot of the fire power befor it dies. Leaving your flyrants in touched. My suggestion would be add a malanthrope somewhere to soak up more fire power and hopefully survive the first turn.

Alternatively, keep the exocrine out of LOS (if possible) move it into position and use onslaught to avoid the penalties. This keeps it alive, but leaves your flyrants to be targeted. Again, the malanthrope helps here.

doesnt onslaught only remove advancing penalties?

[irondreddknight]

It works for moving and advancing for the purposes of firing heavy weapons. Can also charge that turn.

[No One]

burd said:

Also take Deathspitters the -1 is more important that the 3 more shots specially when bringing this many Tyrants.

The -1 is worse than the +6 shots against most targets (from memory, DS is slightly better against T7 3+ and T4 2+ than devs and that's about it. Which isn't exactly a large selection of targets ). Deathspitter's advantage over devs is range, not output: on flyrants with 16" move, DS and melee? Range isn't a huge factor.

May be a decent idea on the Kronos flyrant, since then you're possibly going to be able to stay still and shoot for reroll 1s, but still doubt the use.

irondreddknight said:

Something will inevitably be shot down turn one

*Looks at flyrants in reserves and HG out of LoS* Yeah, that's not really an issue. The exo is the sole MC on the field: easy prey from weapons that otherwise are going to be doing not much against the stealers/gaunts.

Out of LoS/onslaught could sort of work, but it's got a lot of risks and not much upsides. You'll only have so much LoS blocking, and having something big enough to hide the exo, let alone the exo and HG is unlikely. Onslaught isn't guaranteed to go off, and you're also still cutting output by quite a bit (no double tap and no +1 to hit).


So yeah, I'd second the above: drop the exo for either another flyrant, more stealers or maybe more HG, depending on what you have/want. Take chamelionic: if you're sold on reaper (can't say I'm a fan, even just over MRC: only -2 AP doesn't do it any favours), spend the 1 CP. -1 to hit is great.

You could also swap the neuro, exo/bios and HG into a spearhead, move one of the flyrants down into the Battalion and make that Kraken for +1 CP and minimal changes as well.

[burd]

Honestly how you kit out your tyrants is based off your Meta as for me taking 2DS is the better option lot of Sang guard/terminators and predator/whirlwinds stuff that the tyrants can harass with the higher strength and ap drop. Play some games with a friend and work out what works for you and your play style/meta

[thejarbo]

Thanks for all the replies guys, huge help. Made a few adjustments based of a couple games and your advice. Dropped the exo, he's just to easy to down. Added a few biovores and 3 more hive guard. I do my best to deploy everything out of LOS or in reserve.

Battalion Detachment +3CP
Kronos

Hive Tyrant: 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings
Hive Tyrant: 2x Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

10x Termagant
10x Termagant
10x Termagant

6 Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon
3 Hive Guard: Impaler Cannon

Spearhead Detachment +1CP
Kronos

Neurothrope

2x Biovore
2x Biovore
1x Biovore

Supreme Command Detachment +1CP
Kraken

Hive Tyrant: Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Rending Claws, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

Hive Tyrant: Adrenal Glands, Monstrous Rending Claws, Two Devourers with Brainleech Worms, Wings

Swarmlord
Tyrannocyte 5x Deathspitter

1999pts 8CP

Probably just run chameleonic, but possibly crown on neuro for synapse.

Thoughts?