2,000 point list for Tournament - Need some polish!

[Halollet]

Should have mentioned that I do have toxin sacs on the stealers now.

I have a hard time time justifying the Malanthrope in this list as the only thing it can do is reduced the shots on the exocrine by 16%. Its pretty useless beyond that. Everything else is going to leave it in the dust.

Win condition is the trap door spider. Swarmy and stealers aren't so much the hammer as they are the clean up crew. My army will cripple key targets and use its speed to keep to cover and pick off what I can. Divide and conquer. When things get out of transports and/or move forward is when I spring, plus the psychological effects of Swarmy able to spring up will make them question their movements. This will change depending on what the enemy is. Tau I'll hit them hard, elder I'll try and draw them out, GK I'll spread out making a their teleports useless, etc. This army allows me to set the pace of keep up up with whatever they throw at me. Does that make sense?

[kazetanade]

It makes sense but i dont think your army build is correct for the list strategy. You can continue to try it and see how you like it though.

[Halollet]

Yeah. The league goes for 6 weeks and I'll have 7 games. By that time the new nid dex might be out and I'll take what I learned from this list and apply it forward. Should be fun! But thank you for the feedback! It does help and make me think and plan more.

Cheers!

[Halollet]

Whelp, game 1 is done. The it was an army of nothing but Primaris Ultramarines and Gulliman with one of the big dreadnaughts. I lost, but the mission was set against me.

Open war, deployment was corners with 12" between them (6" from centre) with the relic in the middle, and the twist was that all ranged weapons range was limited to 12" and once per round, it would extend by 6" on a 4+.

That twist took my exocrine out of the game pretty much as I had to put him somehwere close, where he got charged and spend the rest of the game in a slap fight with them. I got first turn, but he siezed! And immediatly grabbed the relic with Gulliman! So the game became Slay the Girly Man or lose!!

I think I did well, everything swooped in and started slaughtering marines while the hormaguants surrounded Gulliman, keeping him in place and limited how much damage he could deal. It was working for the first 2 turns, but my army ran out of steam. The stealers dropped like flies once they were left out in the open, Swarmlord did 28 wounds to the dreadnaught, but couldn't weather the storm of bolters afterewards. Warriors got into cover and survived, but I couldn't get the trygon into Gulliman and died on the way there... and then I conceded on turn 4 as there was no way to rest the relic from Gulliman and he still had a lot of marines left and nothing fast enough to chase him down.

[kazetanade]

If girlyman was 6" from the center, and rushed to pick it up what you should have done was send the toxin sac GS straight into his face and obliterate it. The man was waaaaaay out of position if you could get gaunts around him without chewing on primaris first, and with 9 wounds only the TS GS rend count would have killed him if he failed half the saves. rest of the primaris army falls apart without girlyman because he probably doesnt have a 2nd buff bubble, and allows you to 1: drag relic faaaaar away and 2: engage Hormagants into a clusterfuck of units and force them all to shoot at -1 (or -2 with the malanthrope buble). Hellblasters could be an issue but since you didnt bring it up i dont think he had any.

Shame on the exocrine, but he would have been in the same situation, limiting all long range guns. Its a decent situation for you to be in. Although yea Primaris Bolters hurt like (please do not swear). Good try still, and good luck in the next one

[Halollet]

It was a weird mission. There was a big impassible tower in the middle and walls to climb up and down. But you make some good points. Stealers to take out the big scary stuff. And he did have hell blasters, that's what my stealers ate turn one! But switching things up for a messed up mission is something I'll have to think over.

[kazetanade]

Usually its just "if the enemy presents his lynchpin unit, eat it" kinda thing. Plus 20GS with toxin sacs should be a confirm kill on a 9W creature (one of the few times GS will get to eat above their points).

If there was a tower blocking you it should have been bloxking him as well since its relic. Should, anyway. Still its not a bad game and I'm sure you'll do better next game

[Halollet]

2nd game done! Fought against Tzeench; Magnus, Ahriman, Rubic marines with flamers, some terminators, 2 helldrakes, daemon prince, and a bunch of brimstone horror thingies. Mission was get 1 VP for holding an objective and there was 4 of them, got +2 to movement and +1 to charges and advancements.

Got first turn, didn't do much, but his first turn, his wiped out all my shrikes, biovores, and my poor Prime died to Magnus. My Prime doesn't like Primarchs as he died to Girlyman last game, oi.

Got the stealers on Magnus and broutht him down to 9 wounds, Swarmy tried to go after Ahriman but saved everything. After, I played the objective, but his army was fast and hit hard. Start of the 4th turn, I had tied him up for VP, but I only had Tyrannoctye and half a Trygon left, meanwhile he had half his army still.

Maybe I should have dropped down on the opposite side of the board and sweep his back line and held the objectives there, I'm not sure. I had a weird 2 triangle deployment and he had a big triangle, not sure what else I could have done.