Hive Tyrants

[valdrog]

All my Hive Tyrants are currently equipped with the Flyrant setup of twin devourers and Wings.

Havent used them yet, was wondering what setup is good for them now and how are people using them.

Buff support or Melee monster ?

[acehilator]

Wings - two Deathspitters with slimer maggots + Monstrous Rendings Claws.

No wings - useless, use Swarmlord instead?

[N.I.B.]

Buff support for casual games (2x dual Deathspitters). Some like them with 1 pair of Deathspitters + free Monstrous Rending Claws but I like my machines fine-tuned.

[gigasnail]

be realistic about what they can do and they will serve you well. i hold mine back if the other guy has reserved scouts or w/e because a flyrant will straight murder little MSU squads that try to get cute and drop into your backline. you can HC them forward if needed to drop into combat with something annoying and provide synapse, and are great smite platforms.

what you can't do with them is expect to cruise around with impunity. they're difficult to hide but in some deployments you can start them out of range of most units. they won't be rolling over dedicated CC units. they won't live through volume of fire. choose your targets and hide them as long as you can.

may or may not be worth it any more. i don't think they are in a competitive environment. they really need 9-wound character protection; they'd be effing perfect.

[miles]

I don't play heavily competitive, but I've been using a walking tyrant with heavy venom cannon and talons just fine. Won more than I've lost, in the few I have lost with him, he's been the last or next to last model killed, and in one of the games, he finished off the Swarmlord for the win. Never tried one with wings (the only thing that doesn't walk in my army are spore mines) and haven't run into too many problems. Note, I have been taking him with a unit of 3 guards lately, to help him out.

[harry4tw]

Aug 3, 2017 18:40:12 GMT miles said:

I don't play heavily competitive, but I've been using a walking tyrant with heavy venom cannon and talons just fine. Won more than I've lost, in the few I have lost with him, he's been the last or next to last model killed, and in one of the games, he finished off the Swarmlord for the win. Never tried one with wings (the only thing that doesn't walk in my army are spore mines) and haven't run into too many problems. Note, I have been taking him with a unit of 3 guards lately, to help him out.

I want heavy venom cannons to be good, they look so sexy. People seem to really hate on them. Ironically seems on paper like an excellent weapon vs Tyranid Warriors and Shrikes. On a walking tyrant they seem like an okay option for sniping the odd TEQ/primaris Smurf. Maybe time will vindicate them.

[armyofterror]

Right now I've been playing with 4, because frankly they are painted and look awesome, and I have been to lazy to paint anything else lately lol. I run all with wings and 2 with HVC and MRC and 2 with DS and MRC. Ive had decent success with both. Ironically, HVC are not good at taking out vehicles, but excel at taking out elite multi wound infantry or primaris marines. Their speed, Synapse, And Smite is what makes them good. They are also really good at character hunting. I like to jump them to get into position to smite, then the MRC's can usually finish off the character in assault.

[dietsteve]

I'm completely new to nids, and I ended up with 3 tyrants, two with wings. I've got one with the heavy venom cannon and base scything talons for harassment, walking tyrant has the same loadout. The third didn't have arms at all, and I was thinking full CC with insane range on movement could get in on units and start blending; I'm thinking scythes and claws with toxin sacs, but since I'm unfamiliar with the army and I haven't even played the game since the beginning of 6th, I have no idea if this is even viable

[limeicing]

Aug 4, 2017 10:54:13 GMT dietsteve said:

I'm completely new to nids, and I ended up with 3 tyrants, two with wings. I've got one with the heavy venom cannon and base scything talons for harassment, walking tyrant has the same loadout. The third didn't have arms at all, and I was thinking full CC with insane range on movement could get in on units and start blending; I'm thinking scythes and claws with toxin sacs, but since I'm unfamiliar with the army and I haven't even played the game since the beginning of 6th, I have no idea if this is even viable

Toxin Sacs seem wasted on the monsters to me. They already do (D)3 damage per attack; why pay for a 1/6 chance to do one extra damage?

[dietsteve]

Aug 4, 2017 11:28:45 GMT limeicing said:

Aug 4, 2017 10:54:13 GMT dietsteve said:

I'm completely new to nids, and I ended up with 3 tyrants, two with wings. I've got one with the heavy venom cannon and base scything talons for harassment, walking tyrant has the same loadout. The third didn't have arms at all, and I was thinking full CC with insane range on movement could get in on units and start blending; I'm thinking scythes and claws with toxin sacs, but since I'm unfamiliar with the army and I haven't even played the game since the beginning of 6th, I have no idea if this is even viable

Toxin Sacs seem wasted on the monsters to me. They already do (D)3 damage per attack; why pay for a 1/6 chance to do one extra damage?

I've learned to plan for everything, as the adage goes "it's better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it"

[tyrantgrift]

What would be the preferred setup if running your HT on foot?

Backfield synapse, support for the swarm/running up the board and for pure melee. If pure melee I think the SL would be better. For anything else a HVC, MRC's and maybe a few guards for protection? Could use him as backfield synapse for your HG, Exocrines etc as he also has a nice gun to shoot with and is good to assault with as well.

Or is SL simply the better option even though he's likely to be 125+ more points than a regular HT.