Lictor and overwatch

[Kuku]

Hi,

You must substract 1 to hit rolls when firing at a Lictor, so when charging, does the overwatch hit on 7+ ? (i.e your lictor is safe ?)

Or do you get shot on 6 anyway ?

[Jbizzy]

Overwatch always hits on a dice roll of 6.

[purestrain]

Mass hypnosis takes care of that, and it's to hit as well. Put the horror on them in concert with MH and they can't even hit them if they aren't 3+.
Death leaper is -2 hit. I like new Lictor

[Bellator]

You auto miss on a 1, but you do not auto hit on a 6.

As an example, you have a -2 penalty when shooting dathleaper, so if you have bs 5+ (say your using ork boys), then you cannot hit deathleaper.

Overwatch is a bit of a exception, as you hit on a 6+ regardless of modifiers when firing overwatch.

So to answer your question directly, no, lictors are not safe from overwatch.

[Kuku]

Okay thanks for precision. I'm having a hard time finding a decent roles to my Lictors...
Has anyone tested the Deathleaper ? Doesn't seems to have a very good offensive power, but -2 to hit coupled with 1ps Deep Strike seems nice.

[Jbizzy]

Imagine if those grasping talons would prevent infantry models in base contact with the Lictor from falling back...

[Hive Bahamut]

I think they are not much better off than last edition unfortunately. No one is afraid of 3 S6 A, especially on a T4 5+ platform. The -1 doesn't affect overwatch where they need it, and anything other than a non melee character is going to melt it.

They are just REALLY expensive Genestealers now..

[Jbizzy]

They should get Monstrous rending claws...

Edit: Scratch that, their claws aren't much bigger than a Genestealers

[Iryan]

They should get their pheromone trail utility back, which would obviously work differently now that deep strikes do not scatter. Something like...

"Pheromone Trail: When a friendly <HIVE FLEET> unit arrives from reserves within 6'' of a Lictor, it may immediately move 3 inches."

[Hive Tyrant Qiln]

Jul 24, 2017 20:39:29 GMT Iryan said:

They should get their pheromone trail utility back, which would obviously work differently now that deep strikes do not scatter. Something like...

"Pheromone Trail: When a friendly <HIVE FLEET> unit arrives from reserves within 6'' of a Lictor, it may immediately move 3 inches."

As much as I love this, no. As soon as one person breaks this rule, all Hell breaks loose and we just end right where we started with 7th.

[balthial242]

How about this:

Sneak Attack: Once during the fight phase and before the first attack, a lictor may target an enemy character with 6" and consolidate towards it, ignoring enemy models for the purpose of calculating distance.

[Mauler]

Deathleaper can be worth it due to being able to pop-up closer than 9" to it's target for charging, and also it's not much of a melee slouch either. Also can consolidate into any bodyguards overwatch-free and they're all -2 to hit in melee too.

[No One]

Hive Tyrant Qiln said:

As much as I love this, no. As soon as one person breaks this rule, all Hell breaks loose and we just end right where we started with 7th.

Tau already have (Homing Beacons on Stealth Suits), and maybe other homing stuff?

[kazetanade]

Jul 25, 2017 4:45:14 GMT balthial242 said:

How about this:

Sneak Attack: Once during the fight phase and before the first attack, a lictor may target an enemy character with 6" and consolidate towards it, ignoring enemy models for the purpose of calculating distance.

Give me:

Sneak Attack: During the Fight phase where Deathleaper has charged in the prior Charging Phase, he gets +2 to Wound results, and gets to Activate for combat Twice. 

Now THAT is an Assassin worth bringing. Right now, he's barely enough to kill a freaking Commissar I think. Definitely has problems against tougher Characters like the Necron ones. 

For normal Lictors? Give them +1 to Wound or activate twice - they already have reroll charges at 9" range which is pretty decent. 

[jossy]

Jul 25, 2017 3:54:11 GMT Hive Tyrant Qiln said:

Jul 24, 2017 20:39:29 GMT Iryan said:

They should get their pheromone trail utility back, which would obviously work differently now that deep strikes do not scatter. Something like...

"Pheromone Trail: When a friendly <HIVE FLEET> unit arrives from reserves within 6'' of a Lictor, it may immediately move 3 inches."

As much as I love this, no. As soon as one person breaks this rule, all Hell breaks loose and we just end right where we started with 7th.

Pheromone trail: A unit arriving within 8" of a friendly unit with this ability may re-roll the dice for charging a unit on the turn it arrives.