Fighting up Ruins?

[jesses]

I'm hoping that I am wrong and just missed it, but it seems that there has been no clarification for fighting up multiple levels in ruins. You still measure from the base, meaning Monsters and Vehicles with bases cannot hit the second level or higher.

So Trygons still can't attack things at a convenient biting height.

[gigasnail]

Yup.

Fun fact: a land raider can.

[kazetanade]

This one is a serious one since it involves c core rules. Where do we send requests for clarification again?

[Kitane]

I am running into this issue almost all the time with my usual gaming pals (not really an option to replace those, even though they get on my nerves a lot).

On a side note, clawed hands of Genestealers are not bad wall hooks when scaling GW Ruins from the outside, you can hang two stealers on a single window tile... (that's what I did the last time when they denied BRB Wobbly Model Syndrome...)

[gigasnail]

They dont get the option to ignore rules, lol. If we go down that rabbit hole just tell them you're denying the non-infantry can end their move in ruins rule.

Sounds fair to me.

[jesses]

Jul 23, 2017 20:32:07 GMT Kitane said:

I am running into this issue almost all the time with my usual gaming pals (not really an option to replace those, even though they get on my nerves a lot).

On a side note, clawed hands of Genestealers are not bad wall hooks when scaling GW Ruins from the outside, you can hang two stealers on a single window tile... (that's what I did the last time when they denied BRB Wobbly Model Syndrome...)

I find "Wobbly Model Syndrome" and "The Most Important Rule" to be the two rules that most often people try and ignore, despite one LITERALLY being called THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE.

Is it in the rulebook rules section? Than it's a (please do not swear) rule!

[butter]

I sent a message to them and they replied "this will definitely be in the upcoming FAQ"... this was when 8th came out.

[butter]

Jul 23, 2017 21:23:06 GMT jesses said:

Jul 23, 2017 20:32:07 GMT Kitane said:

I am running into this issue almost all the time with my usual gaming pals (not really an option to replace those, even though they get on my nerves a lot).

On a side note, clawed hands of Genestealers are not bad wall hooks when scaling GW Ruins from the outside, you can hang two stealers on a single window tile... (that's what I did the last time when they denied BRB Wobbly Model Syndrome...)

I find "Wobbly Model Syndrome" and "The Most Important Rule" to be the two rules that most often people try and ignore, despite one LITERALLY being called THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE.

Is it in the rulebook rules section? Than it's a (please do not swear) rule!

Wobbly model doesn't apply, you have to actually be able to place the model.

[thespawnofcryptus]

Jul 23, 2017 22:24:55 GMT butter said:

Jul 23, 2017 21:23:06 GMT jesses said:

I find "Wobbly Model Syndrome" and "The Most Important Rule" to be the two rules that most often people try and ignore, despite one LITERALLY being called THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE.

Is it in the rulebook rules section? Than it's a (please do not swear) rule!

Wobbly model doesn't apply, you have to actually be able to place the model.

I think he gets that, but whoever he was playing with wouldn't let him apply WMS correctly so he did this instead just to show the guy how ridiculous he was being.

[gigasnail]

Read the "stepping into a new edition" example. They expressly use the example of an infantry model moving up a wall needing to use wobbly model syndrome.

[cypheon]

Jul 23, 2017 20:32:07 GMT Kitane said:

On a side note, clawed hands of Genestealers are not bad wall hooks when scaling GW Ruins from the outside, you can hang two stealers on a single window tile... (that's what I did the last time when they denied BRB Wobbly Model Syndrome...)

I am not sure if i want to applaud your creativity.... or facepalm their refusal to let a game be fun.

Sadly going by GWs standards... that still is not valid model placement as they need a spot to stand, not merely be placed. However i will absolutely wall hang genestealers myself now.

[gigasnail]

Negative. See above post.

[jesses]

Jul 23, 2017 22:24:55 GMT butter said:

Jul 23, 2017 21:23:06 GMT jesses said:

I find "Wobbly Model Syndrome" and "The Most Important Rule" to be the two rules that most often people try and ignore, despite one LITERALLY being called THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE.

Is it in the rulebook rules section? Than it's a (please do not swear) rule!

Wobbly model doesn't apply, you have to actually be able to place the model.

Nope, check the newest Designer's Commentary. Moving "halfway" up a wall is EXPLICILTY mentioned as an example of when it would be appropriate to use WMS.

[kazetanade]

Does that mean you dont actually have to place infantry models on the same floor to combat? I just need to make charge roll?

[gigasnail]

Pretty much.