Maleceptor improvements

[thespawnofcryptus]

So I thought I would start a thread specifically with ideas for what GW should do to the maleceptor, as it hasn't been useable since it's implementation. In the Shield of Baal fluff, maleceptors are supposed to be able to best Mephiston in psychic battles, but this really isn't represented well by the rules.

Personally, I would like to see them become immune to Deny the Witch, as for a single unit that could be powerful but not game-breaking.

Also, perhaps their own set of psychic powers in the new codex, for example a power which can halve an enemy unit's movement distances for the next turn, boosting psychic overload a bit and making it a power (and get rid of that limit on it only using psychic overload or powers), etc.

Most of these have come from the shield of Baal fluff; feel free to add any other ideas.

[gigasnail]

It's AoE is immune to DtW, as it's not a psychic power.

[thespawnofcryptus]

Yeah, but it's AoE is rubbish. I'm talking about all its powers. And I suggested making it a power anyway.

[Jbizzy]

Make it cost 0 points and have GW give the model away for free? /s

But seriously it needs to cast two powers a phase and the AoE needs to do d3 mortal wounds to each unit it hits on +2.

[gigasnail]

They're not going to make it immune to one of the basic tenants of the game.

[killercroc]

They made it better but it's still kinda on the "Ehh" due to the short range and it becoming weaker as he does. I mean causing mortal wounds to 6 units on a 2+ is cool, but how often are you going to get 6 units within 6"? My guess is maybe once then when your opponent learns what he does never again. So either increase the range to 12" or let him do it 6 times to units within 6" so he can hit the same unit multiple times. I mean the thing has 6 giant brains, I think it can focus enough to hit the same unit over and over.

[gigasnail]

They fixed the durability issue, now it just needs to actually be able to do something. Pick a damn role, and make them good at it GW.

[kazetanade]

It tied Mephiston in battle, IIRC. Dante i think punted a blow to its face and it runs off after that.

Firstly i would like it to have an overcharged Synapse / SitW aura. Either 8" x2 effect or 16/24" x1 effect.

Secondly it should DtW easier than normal and be able to do it twice at least.

Thirdly its special ability should have 2 firing profiles - aura buble or concentrated 1/D3/D6 multi-profile Mortal wound.

Fourthly give it a damn 3++ like its zoanthrope equivalent. Its a brain bug with bigger brains, it should project a field as potent as the smaller guys.

Fifthly let it be 150 points

Giving 2/5 of my suggestions would make me happy as is. You would at least get a sense of this guy being the psychic monster.

[killercroc]

I really hope they fix it (maybe we should spam GW with our ideas... relentlessly) I really do like the model, it's possibly one of my favorite ones of all the new nids. But with it's weak battlefield role and high price tag I've never picked one up. I mean, I don't want to be one of those players that only uses the most powerful units, but if I'm dropping $70+ on a model it should be a damn good model!

[kazetanade]

Jul 7, 2017 19:58:27 GMT killercroc said:

I really hope they fix it (maybe we should spam GW with our ideas... relentlessly) I really do like the model, it's possibly one of my favorite ones of all the new nids. But with it's weak battlefield role and high price tag I've never picked one up. I mean, I don't want to be one of those players that only uses the most powerful units, but if I'm dropping $70+ on a model it should be a damn good model!

I wouldnt even then because i think it looks dumb as hell with its ScyTals. The toxicrene at least looks like a badass tentacle monster out to get all the Sisters of Battle.

[thespawnofcryptus]

Jul 7, 2017 19:47:23 GMT kazetanade said:

It tied Mephiston in battle, IIRC. Dante i think punted a blow to its face and it runs off after that.

Firstly i would like it to have an overcharged Synapse / SitW aura. Either 8" x2 effect or 16/24" x1 effect.

Secondly it should DtW easier than normal and be able to do it twice at least.

Thirdly its special ability should have 2 firing profiles - aura buble or concentrated 1/D3/D6 multi-profile Mortal wound.

Fourthly give it a damn 3++ like its zoanthrope equivalent. Its a brain bug with bigger brains, it should project a field as potent as the smaller guys.

Fifthly let it be 150 points

Giving 2/5 of my suggestions would make me happy as is. You would at least get a sense of this guy being the psychic monster.

I mean, Mephiston didn't die, but he was effectively rendered unable to use his psychic abilities for a short while, and probably would have died had Dante not stabbed one in the brain whilst it was distracted.

However, I love all of those ideas.

[killercroc]

Jul 7, 2017 20:02:10 GMT kazetanade said:

Jul 7, 2017 19:58:27 GMT killercroc said:

I really hope they fix it (maybe we should spam GW with our ideas... relentlessly) I really do like the model, it's possibly one of my favorite ones of all the new nids. But with it's weak battlefield role and high price tag I've never picked one up. I mean, I don't want to be one of those players that only uses the most powerful units, but if I'm dropping $70+ on a model it should be a damn good model!

I wouldnt even then because i think it looks dumb as hell with its ScyTals. The toxicrene at least looks like a badass tentacle monster out to get all the Sisters of Battle.

Took 10 comments to already start with rule 34 nids/Sisters, I think that shows great restraint on our part!

I like his giant arms it's like a nerd that carries a sword around, make fun of the brain and you'll get a cutting! But I don't know what other arms would look good, giant claws or hands? Hands seem creepy. I know, brains on the arms!

[nikh]

I can't figure out why they don't want to sell this model. It's so beautiful and has awesome design, but the rules are consistently trash. I'd own two if they were even halfway decent, but they're not, so I own 0.

[Hive Bahamut]

What about some sort of "soul blaze" variant on the aura? Something like on a 4+ it takes another d3 Mortal wounds (that is after the aura gets fixed to d3.)

Or what about something along the lines of Yvraine? If it kills a model/Psyker it generates another power, or can manifest smite?

[gigasnail]

Or how about we give it rules that work more than half the time, or aren't reliant on having a specific set of circumstances?