Barbed Strangler vs Venom Cannon

[TheHiveKing]

Im getting some warriors and i am not whever to give 1 of them a venom cannon or a barbed strangler. What would be the better option and why?

[arsonfire]

A single S6 shot isn't going to do much to vehicles, given the current damage rules. Its AP4 isn't going to threaten heavy infantry either.
A large blast is far better than a small blast, particularly given how many models base sizes have increased to 32mm lately.

So if you're taking warriors, go with the barbed strangler.

[gigasnail]

Neither are great options.

[TheHiveKing]

Jan 15, 2017 18:27:25 GMT gigasnail said:

Neither are great options.

Should i just run them all with deathspitters then?

[mattblowers]

In a competitive environment? Don't run warriors at all.

[krakentendrilswarm]

Deathspitters are rarely worth the upgrade cost in my opinion. Better to stick with Devourers and throw on either heavy weapon for a little extra punch (I prefer the Barbed Strangler; it's dedicated anti GEQ, where as the Venom Cannon isn't sure what it's supposed to be unfortunately). Generally though, if you're going to take Warriors then take them as part of one of our formations, so they unlock a nice effect. Living Artillery Node and Bio-blast Node are actually pretty decent and slot into most (not ultra) competitive lists fairly well. Endless Swarm also works, but you have to build a bit more around it (about the only time a Trygon is worth it these days, but the tunnel makes the respawning units much more useful.

[gigasnail]

If you must take them due to formation requirements, you're already giving up 90 points for marginal benefit (none of the formations that require them are very good). I have tried to make the T4/3w chassis work and it's pretty underwhelming.

Take some pop shots with a biocannon if you want; I'd take the venom cannon because S6 threatens more things and you can at least knock a hp off a trasport, or wound a bike on a 3+, etc. We already kill troops well, the barbed strangler isnt adding a lot but it's not like it's an active detriment either.

Another option would be to go RC/ST on the warriors and plop them on an objective (if not taking living artillery; pretty sure you are required to take a cannon there). 15 rending attacks on the charge isn't awful as a counter puncher.

Tl;dr: silk purse out of a sow's ear. If not for competition, man, don't sweat it, either option will be fine.

[blackrainbow]

As they packet warriors with almost every box set, you'll quickly find yourself with more than you want. Never buy a plain box of them. If you play with a casual, friendly, new group of folks, then just about any loadout will work. In those situations... I still prefer them bare. The devourers are fine with their BS, so just go for numbers. They are good close/medium range all around troop. If your taking them in a five-strong brood, then perhaps UG one gun but remember that the unit has to shoot at the same target, so consider range restrictions. If your in a good group (read: non hyper competitive) then you could add a tyranid prime for a BS+1 bump, in which case your making the warriors a significant focus of your list, so give them (and the prime) guns with the same range and more punch. No book on me, so can't tell you exact ranges that go with each gun. Lastly, if you are required to take them, putting rending as mentioned, and parking them in cover on an objective, is sure to make that a worry spot for anyone trying to take it.