Harpie VS Crone

[TheHiveKing]

I am getting the harpie/crone set, but i don't know which one is the best to play right now. Which one should i make?

[hiveminded]

I like the crone myself. The template roasts xenos troops and the vector strike and haywire give you some additional anti-vehicle options.

[gigasnail]

crone; harpy isn't really very good.

magnetize the guns/sacs to play it safe if you want.

[cypheon]

harpy works well as a support unit to a CC winged tyrant... but no one is crazy enough to use a winged cc tyrant these days. crone does a lot better as a standalone unit

[TheHiveKing]

Is it worth putting stinger salvoes on the crone?

[hiveminded]

I like to run him with no upgrades.

[slithernaut]

I only run harpies when required by a formation. Hive crones all the way.

You should be vector striking one vehicle and shooting one missile at another vehicle or cook some SM scouts/evuivalent with the flamer each turn.

[gigasnail]

makes a great blocker unit too. huge base.

[Kark]

Yes, in most cases hive crone/harpy base will block the enemy movement range, but enemy units may legally go through FMCs bases as long as they end their movement more that 1" away form it.

Hive crone is better than harpy in every way. Stinger salvo is a good upgrade if You have the pts for it. It gives You four S5AP4 shots (additional 5th from tentaclide missile with same stats) to clear out late game objective grabbers like enemy ICs.

Harpy sonic ability is out of date. In 6th edition You were able to assault in turn You change flight mode, so You could have been swooping and charge next turn with -5 to initiative. Now this ability is unusable.

[gigasnail]

Not exactly. You still can't move within 1" of their base. The only thing they can move under/past are things like overhanging wings/tail, and then only if the model will actually fit.

[eskimo]

Nobody should care if you don't have guns on it and use it as a harpy. Mine are crone body and arms, harpy head and tail.

[abraxxas]

Most non-nid players won't notice. Same idea as with trygon/mawloc, only nid players can really tell.

[glitchrr36]

Crones are over all a better model

Now I just need to buy another bottle of purple power to finish stripping the damn thing.

[Osedaxx]

I'd only put Stinger Salvo's on a Harpy to get more firepower. I've never had oppertunities to use anything but the Tentaclids/Drool Cannon/Vector Strike on a Crone before it dies. A Stinger Salvo is a waste. With a Harpy you'll get to shoot with your TL pewpew as well as the SS.

Either way I usually go naked on both models. Points on upgrades on these guys are usually better spent elsewhere.