Had an idea about Lictors

[TheHiveKing]

What if a lictor could us it's chameleonic skin to go back into the ongoing reserves to deep strike in again? It would work with the fluff because it turns invisible and moves some where else.

The rule would state

At the end of the assault phase a model with this special rule that is not locked in combat can immediately go to the ongoing reserves.

[swarm492]

only thing that sucks about it is, it then redeploys and stands there for a turn.

If any unit should be able to assault out of deepstrike its the lictor, I mean (please do not swear) when you look at the lore it means the thing was there to begin with. No teleporting, pods, jet/jump packs. It was a "Hi I've been here the whole time and you didn't notice me until now."

[sentsuki]

Didnt we have this rule in fifth

[TheHiveKing]

Jun 18, 2015 0:06:03 GMT sentsuki said:

Didnt we have this rule in fifth

never played in fifth, so i wouldn't know.

[Halollet]

Being able to assault from reserve should available to lictors for sure.

Wondering if something like this would work for lictors;

At the end of the tyranid turn you may place the lictor brood into ongoing reserves. Place a marker where one of the lictors was. The lictor brood then appears next tyranid turn within 18" of that marker and may shoot, run, and assault.

Would also like to see on precision hits to get that assassin feel to em.

Edit;

Maybe can only pop out if it didn't pop in that turn. That way the enemy has a chance to shoot it.

Edit 2;

Maybe also the lictor has to be in cover to pop out.
And deathleaper can pop out the same turn he pops in on a 4+ or 5+

[swarm492]

I like that idea halollet of lictors leaving the board and moving up to 18 inches or so.

sentsuki, I think your thinking of outflank, units that came in from reserve and outflanked could assault.

[nurglitch]

I think the Deathleaper had this rule in 5th.

[bobnid]

Hi all!


5th edition rule for Deathleaper:

"Where'd it go?"
If Deathleaper ends its Movement phase more than 1" from any enemy model, the owning player can decide that it will blend into the background. If the player elects to do so, remove Deathleaper from the table and place him back into reserve. In the subsequent Tyranid Movement phase, Deathleaper can be redeployed following the normal rules for Chameleonic Skin."

In my opinion, this would be a better rule for Lictors - both assaulting AND fading away would be way too OP. This way you have to choose between shooting and/or assaulting OR going into ongoing reserves. 
I fully agree that lictors (and Deathleaper) should be able to assault the same turn they "appear".

/Bobnid

[TheHiveKing]

Jun 18, 2015 17:38:12 GMT bobnid said:

Hi all!


5th edition rule for Deathleaper:

"Where'd it go?"
If Deathleaper ends its Movement phase more than 1" from any enemy model, the owning player can decide that it will blend into the background. If the player elects to do so, remove Deathleaper from the table and place him back into reserve. In the subsequent Tyranid Movement phase, Deathleaper can be redeployed following the normal rules for Chameleonic Skin."

In my opinion, this would be a better rule for Lictors - both assaulting AND fading away would be way too OP. This way you have to choose between shooting and/or assaulting OR going into ongoing reserves. 
I fully agree that lictors (and Deathleaper) should be able to assault the same turn they "appear".

/Bobnid

Yeah, but nids need op units.

[mattblowers]

Going back into reserves is good. Assaulting out of reserves on top of that would be a bit harsh though, that's too much to ask for a 50 point model.

[topaxygourouni]

Hit and run + fleet + move through cover makes for a very fast moving unit that can manipulate combats to stay out of shooting danger. That is IF it can survive combat. In short, make it toughness 5 or give it eternal warrior and suddenly you have the best swiss army knife in the game.

[Halollet]

Jun 19, 2015 11:16:25 GMT mattblowers said:

Going back into reserves is good. Assaulting out of reserves on top of that would be a bit harsh though, that's too much to ask for a 50 point model.

To something that can just die to one wall of death from any sort of flamer, not really.

[nurglitch]

That's what cannon-fodder is for.

[topaxygourouni]

Jun 19, 2015 12:37:32 GMT nurglitch said:

That's what cannon-fodder is for.

If you add cannon fodder then it's not 50 pts any more Just saying. no i think the lictor is ok as it is for 50 pts. Deathleaper is not for 140. For that point cost it should have ap2 attacks or ID on 6's, prefered enemy and maybe something more as well.

Basically it just needs a rule reducing the strength of attacks against it by 1. Will still be fragile but it won't be insta-squatted by hidden powerfists any more. It will still die to krak missiles but it will be much easier to play the hit and run and re-assault game.

[nurglitch]

No, just use cannon-fodder.