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[shadowfinder]

I all I have been reworking my list over the past month or so. With the changes to the ITC I have done some tweaking as well.

So I have 4 list that I have been working on. I lost a game to a guy in the area and he got to pick one of my unit for the next tournament. He picked the Trygon Prime with the reaper artifact , I recently finished for a local custom model contest. I love the model and don’t mind using him and he’s been effective in the list I have been running. He just wasn't my first pick.
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So the unit has to stay. I keep my word.

So the list have come up with are below. I’m open to ideas for the list. The first one is the one I think most people will like as it is all offence. The two middle ones are very alike in that they have a solid back field but with different striking abilities. The last, 4 option is closer to the first list with a screening unit included. I think it is more a TAC list.
The first list is a spam list with 3 Carnifex’s and 3 tyrants. The trygon get dropped behind the Carnifex’s in cover while the tyrants go after the biggest threats. As the Carnifex open things up the trygon has been very us as a counter attack unit allowing my Carnifex’s to get clear of combat and shoot more. Its work well. It is a Null style list so it is week at getting secondary point in the first turn for the ITC missions.

Here the list option 1
+++ Option 1(1850pts) +++
++ Tyranids: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++
Tyrannocyte [5x Deathspitters]
Tyrannocyte [5x Deathspitters]
Tyrannocyte [5x Deathspitters]
+ HQ +
Hive Tyrant [Electroshock Grubs, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
Hive Tyrant [Electroshock Grubs, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
+ Troops +
Mucolid Spore Cluster [Mucolid Spore]
Mucolid Spore Cluster [Mucolid Spore]
+ Fast Attack +
Spore Mine Cluster [3x Spore Mine]
Spore Mine Cluster [3x Spore Mine]
+ Heavy Support +
Carnifex [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms]
Carnifex [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms]
Carnifex [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms]
Aegis Defense Line [Comms Relay]
++ Tyranids: Codex (2014) (Allied Detachment) ++
+ HQ +
Hive Tyrant [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
+ Troops +
Mucolid Spore Cluster [Mucolid Spore]
Ripper Swarm Brood
3x Ripper Swarm [3x Deep Strike]
+ Heavy Support +
Trygon Prime [The Reaper of Obliterax]

List option 2
This list has a solid back field with large 29 man blob of hormagaunts with a 2+ cover save from the Malanthrope. This also allows me to leave my tyrants on the table if I wish to strike 1st turn. I like the Hormagaunts over the termagants as I feel the will do more damage to any unit that gets close for less points. I have had then whip out 6 man units of TWC with ease.
I have thought about dropping some hormagaunts to get a biovore or two just not sure if it is worth it.

The list:
+++ option 2 (1847pts) +++
++ Tyranids: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++
Tyrannocyte [5x Deathspitters]
Tyrannocyte [5x Deathspitters]
+ HQ +
Hive Tyrant [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
Hive Tyrant [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
+ Elites +
Malanthrope Brood [Malanthrope]
+ Troops +
29x Hormagaunt [29x Toxin Sacs]
Mucolid Spore Cluster [Mucolid Spore]
+ Fast Attack +
Spore Mine Cluster [3x Spore Mine]
+ Heavy Support +
Carnifex [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms]
Carnifex [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms]
Trygon Prime [The Reaper of Obliterax]
Aegis Defense Line [Comms Relay]
++ Tyranids: Codex (2014) (Allied Detachment) ++
+ HQ +
Hive Tyrant [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
+ Troops +
Mucolid Spore Cluster [Mucolid Spore]


List option 3
This list drops a Carnifex and a drop spore for a Mawloc and a unit of Biovore. I left this list has more tools with the ap2 from the Mawloc. And is better VS Necrons and the new preference fore warrior blobs as it can put a large amount of wound on the unit and halves their saves. I think it would still put pressure on most armies. But if I miss with the Mawloc like I tend to and with the biovores. It is more of a gamble. It also doesn’t pack as big as a threat in the opponents back field when coming in.
The list:
+++ option 3 (1850pts) +++
++ Tyranids: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++
Tyrannocyte [5x Deathspitters]
+ HQ +
Hive Tyrant [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
Hive Tyrant [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
+ Elites +
Malanthrope Brood [Malanthrope]
+ Troops +
Hormagaunt Brood
30x Hormagaunt [30x Toxin Sacs]
Mucolid Spore Cluster [Mucolid Spore]
+ Heavy Support +
Carnifex [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms]
Mawloc
Trygon Prime [The Reaper of Obliterax]
Aegis Defense Line [Comms Relay]
++ Tyranids: Codex (2014) (Allied Detachment) ++
+ HQ +
Hive Tyrant [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
+ Troops +
Mucolid Spore Cluster [Mucolid Spore]
+ Fast Attack +
Spore Mine Cluster [3x Spore Mine]
+ Heavy Support +
2x Biovore

List Option 4:

While this list doesn’t have the pure offence of the first list, it still hits hard when it comes in. While giving an opponent a hard choice as what to kill off. With the hormagaunts, Carnifex’s and the trygon prime all saying hello you must pick what to kill before the next turn. The hormagaunts and the trygon have worked well together in killing thing, even WK. I been very happy with them. With the tyrants and everything coming in together in a Tyranid version of an alpha/ Bata strike I can normally kill everything in the zone I pick to come in within two turns. This list tends to do what the first does and be null deployment as much as possible.

+++ New Roster (1850pts) +++
++ Tyranids: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++
Tyrannocyte [5x Deathspitters]
Tyrannocyte [5x Deathspitters]
Tyrannocyte [5x Deathspitters]
+ HQ +
Hive Tyrant [Electroshock Grubs, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
Hive Tyrant [Electroshock Grubs, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
+ Troops +
20x Hormagaunt [20x Toxin Sacs]
Mucolid Spore Cluster [Mucolid Spore]
+ Fast Attack +
Spore Mine Cluster [4x Spore Mine]
Spore Mine Cluster [4x Spore Mine]
+ Heavy Support +
Carnifex [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms]
Carnifex [Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms]
Aegis Defense Line [Comms Relay]
++ Tyranids: Codex (2014) (Allied Detachment) ++
+ HQ +
Hive Tyrant [Electroshock Grubs, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Wings]
+ Troops +
Ripper Swarm Brood
3x Ripper Swarm [3x Deep Strike]
+ Heavy Support +
Trygon Prime [The Reaper of Obliterax]

So please give me a vote and some advice.

[blackrainbow]

List 4 is the only one the poisongaunts could come up with the tyrgon prime, is that intentional? As a side note to that, do you often run your gaunts with poison? I'm wary on that kind of point-sink, but I don't run as my other flyrants to threaten (only 1). Overall I like #2.

[Kwodd]

List 1

[shadowfinder]

May 16, 2015 3:23:37 GMT blackrainbow said:

List 4 is the only one the poisongaunts could come up with the tyrgon prime, is that intentional? As a side note to that, do you often run your gaunts with poison? I'm wary on that kind of point-sink, but I don't run as my other flyrants to threaten (only 1). Overall I like #2.

Not sure what you are trying to say? The hormagaunts go in to a Tyrannocyte and are dropped around the trygon and fex's to act as a screen or get dropped in to cover or close to it. for they can assault what ever comes out the next turn. There are a lot of threats on the ground and in the air. I was surprised at how often the trygon and the gaunts where ignored as the fex's where seen as a bigger threat.

[shadowfinder]

May 16, 2015 3:37:42 GMT Kwodd said:

List 1

I thought you would like that one. lol

[blackrainbow]

May 16, 2015 14:57:04 GMT shadowfinder said:

May 16, 2015 3:23:37 GMT blackrainbow said:

List 4 is the only one the poisongaunts could come up with the tyrgon prime, is that intentional? As a side note to that, do you often run your gaunts with poison? I'm wary on that kind of point-sink, but I don't run as my other flyrants to threaten (only 1). Overall I like #2.

Not sure what you are trying to say? The hormagaunts go in to a Tyrannocyte and are dropped around the trygon and fex's to act as a screen or get dropped in to cover or close to it. for they can assault what ever comes out the next turn. There are a lot of threats on the ground and in the air. I was surprised at how often the trygon and the gaunts where ignored as the fex's where seen as a bigger threat.

Gotcha, I see it now. And go-go distractionfex.

[Kark]

If I could self ally tyranids I would go with such list

CAD:

HQ: Hive Tyrant (wings, 2xTLD, ESG)
HQ: Hive Tyrant (wings, 2xTLD, ESG)
HQ: Tyrant Guard x2

Troops: Mucolid
Troops: Mucolid

FA: Hive Crone
FA: Hive Crone
FA: Hive Crone

HS: Mawloc
HS: Mawloc
HS: Mawloc

Allied:


HQ: Hive Tyrant (wings, 2xTLD, ESG)

Troops: Mucolid

Fortification:

Imperial Bastion (comms relay)

In most cases I could deploy bastion with guards only and keep everything in reserves. I have 3 large blasts with S6AP2 ignores cover that can be placed anywhere on the battlefield. Mucolids can guard objectives (they do not score/contest, but turbo-boosting/deepstriking units on that objectives are threatened by S8AP3 ignores cover large blast). Tyrants and Crones start from reserves, so they arrive in swooping mode and cannot be shot down by alpha strike armies. Alternatively one crone can be swapped for 3 lictors to help with mealstrom objectives and it is enough points to upgrade tyrant guards with adrenal glands.

[shadowfinder]

May 17, 2015 19:24:27 GMT Kark said:

If I could self ally tyranids I would go with such list

CAD:

HQ: Hive Tyrant (wings, 2xTLD, ESG)
HQ: Hive Tyrant (wings, 2xTLD, ESG)
HQ: Tyrant Guard x2

Troops: Mucolid
Troops: Mucolid

FA: Hive Crone
FA: Hive Crone
FA: Hive Crone

HS: Mawloc
HS: Mawloc
HS: Mawloc

Allied:


HQ: Hive Tyrant (wings, 2xTLD, ESG)

Troops: Mucolid

Fortification:

Imperial Bastion (comms relay)

In most cases I could deploy bastion with guards only and keep everything in reserves. I have 3 large blasts with S6AP2 ignores cover that can be placed anywhere on the battlefield. Mucolids can guard objectives (they do not score/contest, but turbo-boosting/deepstriking units on that objectives are threatened by S8AP3 ignores cover large blast). Tyrants and Crones start from reserves, so they arrive in swooping mode and cannot be shot down by alpha strike armies. Alternatively one crone can be swapped for 3 lictors to help with mealstrom objectives and it is enough points to upgrade tyrant guards with adrenal glands.

Intresting list. But it doesn't have a TYRGON prime. I have to take one because I lost a bet.

This list would have lots of issues with scoring maelstrom objectives as well. You have no ground presence at all.

[Kark]

Okey I forgot about trygon prime.

As for mealstroms: bastion can hold one and guards inside can hold another one (this requires careful objective placing). 3 mawlocs are ground units that can score mealstrom points . If that is not enough one crone can be exchanged for 3 lictors.

I try to think about something with trygon prime.

[glassiya]

You may use some Without number formation to spam gaunts from Trygon's hole, I guess.

[Kark]

OK I have such list:

CAD:

HQ: Hive Tyrant (wings, 2xTLD, ESG)
HQ: Hive Tyrant (wings, 2xTLD, ESG)
HQ: Tyrant Guard x2
E: Lictor
E: Lictor
T: Ripper Swarms (Deepstrike)
T: Ripper Swarms (Deepstrike)
HS: Mawloc
HS: Mawloc
HS: Mawloc

Allied Detachment:

HQ: Hive Tyrant (wings, 2xTLD, ESG)
T: Ripper Swarms (Deepstrike)
HS: Trygon Prime (RoO)

Fortification:

Imperial Bastion (comms realy)

Now Trygon Prime is present amd can deepstrike along with mawlocs. This list consists of more scoring units, like 3x obj. sec. rippers.

Rippers can also be swapped for mucolids and spore mines for more area denial.

[Kwodd]

How did the first day go?