Army list help.

[TheHiveKing]

I have a 1000 point nid army and i want to know what models to get to turn it into a 1500 point list. I will put the 1000 point list down below. I don't want to change the 1000 point list i just want to ad more models.



HQ
hive tyrant: Wings. 2x TL devourers with BLW and electro shock grubs. Points: 240

Tervigon: Scything talons and Stinger salvo. Points: 195

Troops
4 rippers: deep strike. Points 66

20 Termagant: Fleshborer. Points: 80

30 Hormagaunt: Scything talons. Points:150

Elites
Venomthrope: Lash whips and toxic miasma. Points: 45

1 Zoanthrope: 50 points

1 Zoanthrope: 50 points


Fast attack
10 Gargoyles: Fleshborer and blinding venom. points 60

10 Gargoyles: Fleshborer and blinding venom. points 60

Total points: 996 

[TheHiveKing]

Bump

[gigasnail]

Has a lot of bodies but little killing power. Add in another dakka egrub flyrant and either two dakkafexes, dakkafex and crone, crone and tfex, or a dakkafex and double template tfex and take it out for a spin.

[TheHiveKing]

May 7, 2015 22:48:29 GMT gigasnail said:

Has a lot of bodies but little killing power. Add in another dakka egrub flyrant and either two dakkafexes, dakkafex and crone, crone and tfex, or a dakkafex and double template tfex and take it out for a spin.

What is a dakkafex? And what about an Exocrine or a trygon prime?

[gigasnail]

Carnifex with two twin linked brain leech devourers. 12 S:6 twin linked 18" shots.

Exocrine is eh. The S7 AP2 is nice but the low rate of fire means that against everything except AV13+ vehicles and stock terminators (which you won't see because they're awful) outside of cover, dakkafexes do better.

Trygon prime is just kind of bad; it's expensive and pretty easy to kill. There is a case to be made for it in a list using the endless swarm formation, using the tunnel as a delivery system for your re-spawning gants but even then it's eh. It will give your little bugs synapse though. You may do ok with one if you're also playin against other new guys, but trygons right now just generally aren't worth it.

[TheHiveKing]

May 7, 2015 23:16:38 GMT gigasnail said:

Carnifex with two twin linked brain leech devourers. 12 S:6 twin linked 18" shots.

Exocrine is eh. The S7 AP2 is nice but the low rate of fire means that against everything except AV13+ vehicles and stock terminators (which you won't see because they're awful) outside of cover, dakkafexes do better.

Trygon prime is just kind of bad; it's expensive and pretty easy to kill. There is a case to be made for it in a list using the endless swarm formation, using the tunnel as a delivery system for your re-spawning gants but even then it's eh. It will give your little bugs synapse though. You may do ok with one if you're also playin against other new guys, but trygons right now just generally aren't worth it.

I have a carnifex, but i am using the TLDs for my tyrant and i don't want to buy a new fex. Where can i get the TLDs for a fex?

[gigasnail]

Make them. The ones that come with fexes are derp looking anyway. They are really simple to make, and there are about a bazillion threads on them in the conversion sub forum. If you don't want to make some, you v an use the deathspitter arms (which look better anyway, and no one outside of nid players will know the difference ) or use the flesh borer hive arms from the tfex kit.

[TheHiveKing]

May 8, 2015 0:32:51 GMT gigasnail said:

Make them. The ones that come with fexes are derp looking anyway. They are really simple to make, and there are about a bazillion threads on them in the conversion sub forum. If you don't want to make some, you v an use the deathspitter arms (which look better anyway, and no one outside of nid players will know the difference ) or use the flesh borer hive arms from the tfex kit.

I will Make some. What do you think about deep striking a dakkafex in a tyrannocyte?

[gigasnail]

Works real well. Works even better when you have an acid spray tfex and a Dakkafex to choose from. You may have issues fitting all that in at 1500 though.

[TheHiveKing]

May 8, 2015 1:05:30 GMT gigasnail said:

Works real well. Works even better when you have an acid spray tfex and a Dakkafex to choose from. You may have issues fitting all that in at 1500 though.

So i made a 1500 point list and here it is.

HQ
hive tyrant: Wings. 2x TL devourers with BLW and electro shock grubs. Points: 240

Tervigon: Scything talons and Stinger salvo. Points: 195

Troops
4 rippers: deep strike. Points 66

20 Termagant: Fleshborer 9 with devourers Points: 116

30 Hormagaunt: Scything talons. Points:150

Elites
Venomthrope: Lash whips and toxic miasma. Points: 45

1 Zoanthrope: 50 points

1 Zoanthrope: 50 points

Heavy support

2 carnifex with TLDs. points: 300


Fast attack
10 Gargoyles: Fleshborer and blinding venom. points 60

10 Gargoyles: Fleshborer and blinding venom. points 60

Hive Crone: stinger salvo. Points: 165

Total points: 1,497

What do you think?

I will move the venomthrope up the the fexes to keep them alive. 

[gigasnail]

It's a good first stab, for sure. Get some games in with it. You 100% are going to want a 2nd flyrant sooner rather than later though. Unless things radically change, you'll likely want a 3rd soon as well.

Only thing id think about tweaking would be the gargs. A single unit of 15-20 will probably work better than two units of 10.

[TheHiveKing]

May 8, 2015 1:39:53 GMT gigasnail said:

It's a good first stab, for sure. Get some games in with it. You 100% are going to want a 2nd flyrant sooner rather than later though. Unless things radically change, you'll likely want a 3rd soon as well.

Only thing id think about tweaking would be the gargs. A single unit of 15-20 will probably work better than two units of 10.

ok I will them into 1 squad of 20 then. How do i get 3 tyrants?

[gigasnail]

CAD + leviathan detachment, CAD +CAD, CAD + skyblight, w/e. Many areas allow self-ally as well, even though it's not allowed in the main rulebook, as it severely impacts non-imperial armies due to limited ally selection and space marines already violate it right out of their codex.