How to fix: Trygons

[heavyturtle]

Welcome to the second in my series of posts dedicated to fixing specific tyranid models. I will be focusing on the trygon and the trygon prime this time. I want to keep them about the same points cost, but with buffs. You shouldn't have to bring two trygons to get work done when you are paying for 200+ point models. I am also aware that many would like to see trygons/mawlocks made into gargantuans, but i don't think the models are quite big enough. (i would love to see a new kit for a nid gargantuan that is non-apoc)

Trygon: 200pts
Trygon prime: 225pts
25 point option for extended carapace
S7, T7
5++ bio-electric plating
Jump mostrous creature(can slither like a snake over any obstacle with blinding speed)

Please leave comments on any changes you would make, and your ideas on mine! I will likely update this thread in a few days with new changes based on what I see in the comments.

[jimmyp]

Make his shooting attacks and mele attacks have the haywire rule....fluff and story says his electrically charged

[Freeman]

I think you were onto something.

Moves as a beast and T7 would be brilliant without being OP.

[heavyturtle]

May 6, 2015 20:16:58 GMT jimmyp said:

Make his shooting attacks and mele attacks have the haywire rule....fluff and story says his electrically charged

Im afraid that would be very OP, 12 haywire shots after deepstrike?

[jester92]

Give them a new special rule that mixes burrowing from the Mawloc and their existing subterranean assault. Keep the current rules for SA but give them the ability to burrow like the Mawloc and have current units on the table be able to enter from where it started its burrow, enter ongoing reserves, and then pop out with the Trygon when it comes out.

[dcoy]

T7 and d3+1 Smash attacks when smash declared.

Edit: Also, deep strike turn 1.

[jimmyp]

May 6, 2015 20:27:21 GMT heavyturtle said:

May 6, 2015 20:16:58 GMT jimmyp said:

Make his shooting attacks and mele attacks have the haywire rule....fluff and story says his electrically charged

Im afraid that would be very OP, 12 haywire shots after deepstrike?

lol true...something similar less shoots

[Kark]

I would go with S10, T8, monstrous beast.

[nikh]

May 6, 2015 20:27:21 GMT heavyturtle said:

May 6, 2015 20:16:58 GMT jimmyp said:

Make his shooting attacks and mele attacks have the haywire rule....fluff and story says his electrically charged

Im afraid that would be very OP, 12 haywire shots after deepstrike?

It's basically the same thing as DS Zoanthropes, drop in and fry one vehicle. Plus, with the new Eldar book being what it is, I think we've learned GeeDubs doesn't know what "OP" means.

[swarm492]

300 pnts...maybe 320??, str 10, T 7, shooting attacks gain haywire, shooting attacks str 6 ap 3, if you don't shoot in your turn the mini gains a +5 invul, regenerate, a rule that if it smashes it has D3+1 str D attacks, and of course GC.

[gingerwerewolf]

Very simple:

Gargantuan Creature

It gets a move of 12"
It gets Feel No Pain, and an immunity to poison

Then give it an Escort ability like the Storm-Potato, that it escorts one other brood into battle for a single reserves roll and the other brood must be placed entirely within 6" of the Trygon

Change the Trygon Prime to a LoW

[Anggul]

Eh, it pretty clearly doesn't have the bulk to be a gargantuan. It's size is mostly tail, the torso isn't that big.

I would leave it monstrous. Let the player assign a unit which will automatically arrive through the tunnel next turn rather than just walking onto the board. Also increase movement. If not 12", then maybe 9". Perhaps make the bio-lightning concussive, and if you choose not to shoot it can count as assault grenades due to the lightning arcing from it as it charges.

[swarm492]

May 6, 2015 21:12:28 GMT Anggul said:

Eh, it pretty clearly doesn't have the bulk to be a gargantuan. It's size is mostly tail, the torso isn't that big.

I would leave it monstrous. Let the player assign a unit which will automatically arrive through the tunnel next turn rather than just walking onto the board. Also increase movement. If not 12", then maybe 9". Perhaps make the bio-lightning concussive, and if you choose not to shoot it can count as assault grenades due to the lightning arcing from it as it charges.

She use to be a GC, T 7 W 5 if memory serves with a single mass point, back when tyranid GC's had mass points

[tarrasque]

Jump just doesn't work for me. Seeing a trygon leap atop a mountain or hover over a lake just kills the narrative I've been trying so desperately to forge

[heavyturtle]

May 6, 2015 23:02:46 GMT tarrasque said:

Jump just doesn't work for me. Seeing a trygon leap atop a mountain or hover over a lake just kills the narrative I've been trying so desperately to forge

You have a point, when i update the thread, i will make it a monstrous beast. Is that better?