Worst Tyranids?

[malabui]

I keep hearing about which are the best tyranid units to use in battles. So I was wondering, which are the worst units?

[phayze]

many people have opinionated views on what is the "worst" tyranid in our book, and it really depends on what they are constantly facing.

there are BAD choices: pyrovores, warriors, haruspex, sky-slashers, rupture cannon t-fexes, things like that, but they can be used as great units if you choose to. a brood of 3 pyros can be podded in and bring havok to a squichy backfield unit like fire warriors, pathfinders. one unit that is usually seen as a reliable is the hive crone. and while i usually still bring one to my games, i dont get TOO much use out of it.

sure it keeps a stormraven away from its flying arc, and jinkimg to avoid haywire missiles, but once its trick is used up, there isnt much use out of it besides its flamer.

I havent seen anyone use sky-slashers or rupture cannon t-fexes, so I'd say that those are our closest things to "worst" tyranid

[hiveminded]

Point for point....Maleceptor =p. Although I still like the model and will eventually buy/field one.

[gigasnail]

we have a lot of units that aren't necessarily bad, but are really niche. some of our wtf got adjusted; pyrovore brood in a pod should be pretty good now for instance. sky slashers are almost good; swarms+T3 stops them from being all-purpose blenders (just too much S6 out there). stealers cost too much but run them MSU and keep them shrouded they can score for you; just don't expect them to do much else. lictors, same. zoanthropes as singles, some folks have used successfully as WC battery/synapse/scoring even if their supposed use (anti-armor) is awful.

but flat out bad/overcosted? swarmlord is pretty bad. trygon is pretty bad. but king stinker, i'm going to have to agree with hiveminded and go with the maleceptor. it's just tore up from the floor up.

[arapaima]

I swear the malceptor is almost like internet trolling. First TYRANID MC with an inbuilt invulnerable save, make it 200ish points, give it a 4+ save, (please do not swear) WS, I and BS then one unique ability that would get it killed most of the time.

[jackedup]

Feb 8, 2015 22:35:52 GMT phayze said:

many people have opinionated views on what is the "worst" tyranid in our book, and it really depends on what they are constantly facing.

there are BAD choices: pyrovores, warriors, haruspex, sky-slashers, rupture cannon t-fexes, things like that, but they can be used as great units if you choose to. a brood of 3 pyros can be podded in and bring havok to a squichy backfield unit like fire warriors, pathfinders. one unit that is usually seen as a reliable is the hive crone. and while i usually still bring one to my games, i dont get TOO much use out of it.

sure it keeps a stormraven away from its flying arc, and jinkimg to avoid haywire missiles, but once its trick is used up, there isnt much use out of it besides its flamer.

I havent seen anyone use sky-slashers or rupture cannon t-fexes, so I'd say that those are our closest things to "worst" tyranid

I like rupture Cannon T-fexes! I bring THREE.

Opponents are seldom sure whether to shoot them (six S10 shots per round is no joke to vehicles), they can shoot and then electroshock grub vehicles, and have a 2+ armour save.

[gigasnail]

for that many points, you could bring a heirduyle and actually have a threat.

[angelwing]

Its the maleceptor by miles.

[mattblowers]

I like to find ways to use things and even I can't find any redeeming qualities of the maleceptor. Not one. I like the model, but its (please do not swear) for rules mean I won't be buying one anytime soon.

[shiwan8]

Trygons: Too slow, too weak, too costly, useless gimic rules.
Maleceptor: Can not manage the role it was designed for. Not even close. Also slow, weak and hoards points.
Toxicrene: It has a purpose it can never fulfill because it is slow as the waiting mans watch. In a city fight it can usually take hits though.
Warriors: Good at nothing, not kittable for mediocrity, cost a lot.
Genestealers: 5+ armor = no armor, ever so slow for a CC unit. Considering that a necron warrior costs 1 point less, is as fast, shoots, has a 4+ save and a 4+ pseudo FNP, it is really hard to justify this amount of points. If they had 3+ armor then maybe.

[doomreaper9]

For me I don't have a favorite Tyranid model, nor do I dismiss any of the units we have access to. What believe is and what it comes down to is what army u are facing. Whether it be a friendly game or tournament. Each unit or model has its strengths and weaknesses. It only matters on how you decide to use those models. One thing that I have learned is how to deploy effectively. Learning that isn't easy, but once you get it, u definitely become a more stronger and tougher opponent.

[Mauler]

I should be using my Maleceptor in Weds' game, I'll let you know how it goes!

Our worst unit? IMO it's actually the usual Flyrant setup simply because it's such a massive cheesefest that loads of people take them to spaff S6 all over the board. Of course in gameplay terms it's a great unit but the fact that it's like it is...urgh. I have trouble working out what the problem is; Tyrants too expensive or are wings & TL Devs too cheap? How unpopular...

But a more conventional answer? Probably the Mawloc for me because they've never really worked when I've taken them, have a chance to kill themselves even if they're on target (twice), you only get to use them three times at the very most and if you use them on the board their mediocre WS & attacks mean they tend to have a hard time doing much apart from hassling light armour, all of which can move faster than the Mawloc.

[shiwan8]

I think the problem with tyrants is that it is the only reliable unit we have. Nothing else can survive as long as it likely will nor can dish out damage like it does for the same points. There is no challenger for it's place in anywhere in the codex. That is it's problem.
I actually think it costs too much. It need built in +6 synapse as default.The it's in par with other codices...other than CSM and DA.

[Mauler]

I think that you may need to adjust your expectations regarding pricing down a bit or forever be disappointed...

[jackedup]

Feb 9, 2015 7:28:09 GMT gigasnail said:

for that many points, you could bring a heirduyle and actually have a threat.

I'd try it if I had the money and the rules...

I only have Codexes...I don't even *know* how to use those Apocalypse Lord of War things