space wolf pest

[davidhunter]

I have a game tomorrow against an old rival of mine, Space Wolves, these guys really can be a pain for me second only to the unholy shenanigans that are the necrons.

1650 points and I would appreciate any input from you guys, I've decided to simply swamp the fleet this time round and hold up units in cc so I'm going with

flyrant. Twin devs and Elec grubs
10xgargoyles (no upgrades)
20xhormagaunts
30xtermagaunts(10 with devs)
4xwarriors. death spitters/barbed straggler. squad includes warrior prime.
2x carnifexs with twin devs and adrenaline glands
2x venomthroaps
tervigon(troop) electro grubs
and finally a last squad of 4x warriors with devs.

that my list roughtly and its basically my whole force apart from 4 zoanthroaps and a swarmlord. any hints and tips or suggestions you guys care to share?

[Freeman]

What sort of list does he usually run?

[davidhunter]

he usually fields a wolf lord/rune priest
wolf guard
grey hunters
blood claws
LONG FANGS! they alwas make mince meat out of me
possibly some tanks (leman russ)maybe some rhinos too

[WestRider]

Long Fangs: Keep your Warriors in Cover and Venomthrope range until they're gone. Shoot them with your Flyrant.

Do not Charge them while they are in Cover. They have Counter-Attack, so it's usually actually better to let them Charge you if it comes down to that. If they do come out in the open, tho, go for it.

[davidhunter]

success, barely. was a space wolf force with imperial guard
flyrant was amazing, destroyed a pred tank, leman russ eradicator and squad of skyclaws before he went down in turn 4.

carnifexs took down a squad of guard walkers and a hq tank choice? (never played against guard before).

everything else got savaged, cover helped but man did I take a beating. left with only a few warriors, a venomthrope and a squad of hormagaunts.

very fun game

[thenerfed]

Glad to hear this. I play against space wolfs often. My dad runs both them and dark eldar. As a successful doctor he's pretty smart and knows how to prioritize. He kills me even in simple chess... When I started 40k I played space wolves, else I wouldn't fair as well as I do most times. I beat him sometimes with my T6 items and genestealers left over. They rip apart even termanaters in CC. A broodlord really sweeps them up, even whilst in cover.

That lemon rustled can really be annoying. Such a good tank for wolves. Deff send something strong like stealers or a flyrant at it ASAP, and don't stop to look back once it's toast.

Their HQ's aren't very strong vs nids. Even with good gear and power weapon, we have the initiative, and usually cause them to make so many +4 they miss one and die before they can fight. Logan now is no longer an hq but some kind of "legend of battle." Watch out for Iron Priest with their thralls, they can fix tanks and are good against T6 in CC. Shoot em up! Their troops go down tough with a 3+ on every bro. Trick is to make him roll it allot. Venomthrope and poison available to us now really hits marines hard. Take every tail spike, every poison you can manage!

Good job with the swarms, I would take out a single squad of those nondev gaunts and add more warriors or a couple zonethropes with the 3+ invuln.