Ravener Brood size?

[tylertt]

I read over your report from the tourney, it sold me on learning to run Raveners effectively on the table.

Raveners and Shrikes are my two new units to learn more of.

[WestRider]

I've always been a fan of them. Honestly, I still don't use them around here because I very rarely go up against a force without significant amounts of S8+ Ignores Cover, but if I manage to start getting to more Tournaments, I'm definitely going to be including them, because the overall meta has become way more friendly to them.

Still wish they could get Toxin Sacs, tho.

[sneggy]

Dec 22, 2014 4:38:15 GMT WestRider said:

I've always been a fan of them. Honestly, I still don't use them around here because I very rarely go up against a force without significant amounts of S8+ Ignores Cover, but if I manage to start getting to more Tournaments, I'm definitely going to be including them, because the overall meta has become way more friendly to them.

Still wish they could get Toxin Sacs, tho.

And flesh hooks. I would kill for flesh hooks on half our units.

[luke1705]

^^ but this. Seriously

[shadowfinder]

Dec 22, 2014 8:17:55 GMT sneggy said:

Dec 22, 2014 4:38:15 GMT WestRider said:

I've always been a fan of them. Honestly, I still don't use them around here because I very rarely go up against a force without significant amounts of S8+ Ignores Cover, but if I manage to start getting to more Tournaments, I'm definitely going to be including them, because the overall meta has become way more friendly to them.

Still wish they could get Toxin Sacs, tho.

And flesh hooks. I would kill for flesh hooks on half our units.

Taking poison I don't feel they actually need but being able to assault without losing their initiative would be amazingly good

[sneggy]

Toxin Sacs would be on the nice to have if you have spare points list.
Flesh Hooks would be an auto-take on pretty much everything we intend to see any combat whatsoever.

[WestRider]

Toxin Sacs and Adrenal Glands, I think they should have just because they're basically the only Unit in the Army that has options of any kind, but can't take those. Also, the combo would be nice to get to re-roll to Wound for more Rends when Charging Terminators.

[sneggy]

Adrenal glands are less important on them. They already get the fleet so its just the +1str on the charge.
I'd rather have the flesh hooks or toxin sacs.

[WestRider]

Adrenal Glands would only really be important for the combo, getting Re-rolls to Wound on T4 on the Charge.

It would also be nice against AV13 stuff like Knights and Ironclads, tho, give a much better chance of getting in some HP on the Charge. Another Unit that can hurt those never goes amiss in my experience.

[russellr]

Deathspitters for raveners is an interesting option, and one that still gives them two pairs of close combat weapons. Expensive though ... I'd be interested to hear more reports of people who have tried it.

I agree though, pity they can't have the biomorph options that shrikes have

[Yautja]

This is why I've opted for Shrikes. When you only have 5+ armour, I'd rather have the lower initiative of 4 with Flesh Hooks.

[shadowfinder]

Dec 25, 2014 6:36:58 GMT russellr said:

Deathspitters for raveners is an interesting option, and one that still gives them two pairs of close combat weapons. Expensive though ... I'd be interested to hear more reports of people who have tried it.

I agree though, pity they can't have the biomorph options that shrikes have

I have been using them since 5th. I like them over shrikes even with out the upgrade. Hitting before your opponent at I5 is better.

[gigasnail]

point is you won't generally be catching live opponents with ravenors in the open on anything they care about. I5 means very little on a unit with no grenades. the more i use gargs to tie things up for other units to assault later, the less i like it. it's clunky, telegraphed, and generally, a better answer is to just run good sized garg blobs to tie the unit up instead.