Iyaden Supplement Question

[LordPathos]

Hey guys,
Just wanted to know if making a Wraithknight my Warlord is a good idea. I've never played against one and I can only judge how good or bad they are based on stuff I hear here. Are they survivable enough that it will most likely survive the battle? Or should I choose a Spiritseer and keep it surrounded by Wraithgaurd?
Aaaaand go!

[webebuggin]

The answer as always is: It completely depends on what you are against. A single pie plate from a demolisher cannon can erase your wraithguard and spirit seer, where it would put a single wound on your wraithknight.

Then again a wraithknight warlord is a large target and does not always even carry an invul save and might be a magnet for lascannon, and grav-amp fire.

Playing wraithknight safe and keeping to his max range is a good tactic. But then sticking a spirit seer with wraithguard in a wave serpant might be even more benificial if you play them aggressively and can get close enough to unload dcannons/scythes on a juciy target like a squad of deepstriking terminators.

[LordPathos]

Decisions abounds! Too bad the Wraithblades aren't amazing though. I really like them...

[Jabberwocky]

Ironically the wraith-flamer unit is almost always better than wraithblades, whether you are hitting them or they are assaulting you, the flamers will do a lot more wounds to most units than the combat weapons. Only thing you miss is the invulnerable which can potentially by replaced by a divi-seer or just Protect from a spiritseer. At worst you can always have conceal too.

[OD from TV]

Dec 22, 2014 8:18:50 GMT Jabberwocky said:

At worst you can always have conceal too.

Actually you can't with Iyanden lists, they have the Voice of Twilight psychic power that replaces Conceal as the Primaris (ref pg 50 Iyanden Codex).

I personally dig the use of a Wraithknight as a Warlord when playing Iyanden, but it is important to note that I don't play my Eldar ultra competitively or very often these days, and that when I do put a Wraithknight Warlord on the table I'm fully expecting my opponent to get Slay the Warlord.

As with pretty much all choices in 40k, its going to go down to personal aesthetics, tactics, pros and cons. But I'll gladly list a couple reasons to do it.

• Wraithknight Warlords make fairly excellent bulletmagnets. Their high Toughness value, six wounds, and Marine save make them able to take a bit of a pounding. Note that the word "bit" does vary depending on your opponent as well as cover utilization. If your going to be playing a CityFight then even better as there's always great LoS blocking in Cityfight.
• Usually with an Iyanden army, you're relying on the Spiritseers to be boosting your Wraith units with Voice of Twilight because Battle Focus makes Wraithguard and Wraithlords a hundred times better (especially when combined with Spirit Mark). And while you can have up to 10 Spiritseers in a single ForceOrg chart, they're expensive and being so important to the general strategy of the army itself they don't need to be made into a bigger target.
• Take a good look at the Iyanden Warlord Chart. A Hero for Ages Past, Beacon of Hope Renewed, and The Undying Flame are all great for a Wraithknight, and an argument can be made for Lord of the Sorrowful Dead as well. Plus Battleforged Warlord rerolling the trait is just icing on the cake.

Peace
~OD

[Jabberwocky]

You can simply take another Detachment with a normal farseer and/or spirit seer which you would likely want for the farseer powers anyway.

[LordPathos]

I'm too deep in the thought of close combat units. Tyranids and Grey Knights have great units for assaulting and I want that. Maybe just 1 unit of Wraithblades will be enough...idk.

[Anggul]

Bear in mind that although you can designate a Wraithlord or Wraithknight as your Warlord, they still don't become an HQ choice so you still need an HQ.

[LordPathos]

WraithSeer, 5 Spirit Seers, 1 Farseer. #Boom