Tyrannocyte cargo

[mrswarmy]

Hi all. I havent used the Tyrannocyte yet but was thinking about the best use for them. What have you been 'dropping'?

Best use I was thinking of was devilgaunts and zoans.

[topaxygourouni]

6 zoans + neuro upgrade
20 devils
1 sprayfex
1 dima
3-5 pyrovores
5 warriors with boneswords + tyranid prime with maw claws.

[Freeman]

Hive guard.

[mattblowers]

Dec 3, 2014 23:39:19 GMT Freeman said:

Hive guard.

I've heard this before and I LOVE hive guard (I own 15) and yet I don't think this a good plan. Hive guard need babysat b/c of low LD and IB. Otherwise you need to drop a synapse creature nearby and that takes another tyranocyte. I still think Hive Guard do better deploying far forward in ruins and putting out a big area of denial. In addition, they don't do as well in single broods, so now you are dropping 3 tyranocytes to make it work.

[WestRider]

I dropped a Tärv with Crushing Claws and eGrubs the other day and it worked out great. Provides forward Synapse, generates its own Screening Units, and is a substantial threat. It was my MVP of the game, really.

[Kwodd]

Devguants 10/20 or 15/20

[nameless]

Dec 4, 2014 0:22:17 GMT WestRider said:

I dropped a Tärv with Crushing Claws and eGrubs the other day and it worked out great. Provides forward Synapse, generates its own Screening Units, and is a substantial threat. It was my MVP of the game, really.

Did you take it as a TR choice?

What did you do with the 30 gants? I wish you only needed 20 so you put them in a pod. Outflank I suppose.

[WestRider]

No, it was an HQ. I didn't want to deal with the 30 Gaunts, and I'd bumped one of my Flyrants outside the FOC to a SkyTyrant Swarm, so I had a slot open.

[gigasnail]

Dec 4, 2014 2:38:50 GMT WestRider said:

No, it was an HQ. I didn't want to deal with the 30 Gaunts, and I'd bumped one of my Flyrants outside the FOC to a SkyTyrant Swarm, so I had a slot open.

this is probably how i would run a terv as well.

[swarm492]

I like dropping the tyrano.

[Deleted]

I've done a lot of tervigon drops.

It gives you synapse and if you choose to DS on a lightly treaded objective, if your opponent doesn't address the terv he's unlikely to get that objective back too easily. This is probably currently my favored tactic. 

I've done the toxicrene a fair bit, since it has shrouded so will get an "invuln". Plus the ID on that can be perceived as so terribly threatening that your opponent almost has to kill it first while the rest of the army advances(but that's a fairly pricey distraction, that on occasion will actually wreck your enemy's lines). I feel this is the way to go if you decide the new hypertoxic node is worth it. Lets you get your cover saves, the pod toxi, and an extra hive tyrant without a single force org slot.

I don't own a dima, but on paper that seems like a solid choice. Being able to place within 6 of the pod and leaping means you're more likely to be able to use cover effectively.

I could see hive guard being useful, but their nerf from the last codex to their BS killed my love affair with them. Could make a gross anti-armor drop though.

I've contemplated dropping an acid spray tyrannofex actually. The torrent flamer is nice, and you'd not suffer the problem of marching up the board with that 2+ save.

[creatureboi]

I think it depends on how you are intending to use the pod and what you are facing across the board. That's why their flexibility is so good - you don't have to choose what goes in it until you see your enemy.

If you're going pod heavy then you basically need to put an entire army's worth of models in pods. By that I mean you need to make sure whatever comes down is part of a cohesive whole. You will need a bit of everything, especially synapse.

If you're only dropping one or two pods, decide what you need them to do. No matter what you put in a pod it is a significant points investment so it needs to be worth it. I think there's probably three basic uses for a pod:
- sniper squad: take out a specific problem vehicle or unit
- distraction: something the enemy needs to focus on now
- death squad: doing massive destruction and staying there

Snipers are intended to be a one use shot at taking out key enemies. They land, do their thing and it doesn't matter if they survive or not. These are things that you don't care whether they live beyond the turn they land. Suggestions would be devilgants, hive guard (because synapse), pyrovores (actually quite good in this context!) and I would probably include the dakkafex in this category too since 4 wounds won't be enough for him to stick around (burg there is some overlap with category 2 here).

Distraction units are things that have a limited impact right now but if they are left alone they will rip through the entire army or a significant chunk of it. The idea is to force the enemy to make a difficult choice: do they shoot down this new threat and leave the rest of your army coming up to field, or do they concentrate on their original plan, take out the long term threats and feed their own distraction units to your podded creature? It follows that a distraction unit has to be something you feel comfortable losing. What that means will depend in what you have in the rest of the army. These will usually be big (expensive) creatures, like dima, haruspex, toxi, dakkafex also fits in here, or specific close combat threats like stealers (if you choose not to infiltrate) kitted up warriors, hormagaunts or similar throwaway units that will mess with the enemy plans.

Death squads are kind of a mixture. They are things that can deal death over a prolonged period. They create an instant impact the turn they land but also an ongoing threat. They can do the job of both the sniper and the distraction unit, but are more likely to stick around afterwards. For this role I would consider tervi with crushing claws and eGrubs (since she brings her own cover save in the form of Gants), or tfex (because T6 W6 2+ is hard to shift)

[N.I.B.]

I drop Devilgants, Dakkafexes, T-fexes and Zoanthropes to keep it all shooting. I'd consider a Tervigon if my HQ slots weren't taken by Flyrants.

[Threeshades]

Dec 3, 2014 23:08:17 GMT topaxygourouni said:

6 zoans + neuro upgrade
20 devils
1 sprayfex
1 dima
3-5 pyrovores
5 warriors with boneswords + tyranid prime with maw claws.

6 zoans are too expensive to take in the first place in my opinion
Pyrovores still suck, with or without 'cytes, they are too expensive.
Dima maybe, if you want it to get something specific.
Spray T-fex and Devilgaunts are excellent choices.

[topaxygourouni]

6 zoans assault 6 lances and blasts 3++ invu save 12 wounds with neuro as warlord. U mad bro? Can stretch them in a line and have a huge synapse egg, can go sillily charge deathstars and hold them there forever, can be so glamorous with so much brain, wow such brain very smart, glorious synapse model master race don't have to suffer those dirty IB peasants.