skytide swarm

[iyama]

For those that don't know it, its a formation that consists of about 5 other formations to make it, consisting of 4winged hive tyrants, 6harpies, 3crones, a number of gargoyle broods and some mucolids and spore mines.
I won't go into detail as to what it does but fully tooled up my formation came to 7100 points and was scary! I just don't have the models to field the full formation but I soooooo want to try it out, any one else who has the campaign book want to try it?

[gigasnail]

well, i don't have the models (or even the means to proxy all of that) and i don't play 7000+ point games soooooo....it's kind of out for me.

[Davor]

Does any other army have formations in formations that come out to ridiculous point costs?

[Yautja]

Doubt 1% of Tyranid player base will ever play it. Utterly pointless addition for the vast majority.

[iyama]

To be fair the 7100 points was taking Max model counts with all upgrades on them but the formation gives you meat grinder so you wouldn't necessarily need max ed out squads, I wrote mine as an example for my mate

[Moontyranid]

i would like to use it but i dont have the models and in don play above the 1850 points so yea i dont think we will ever see the formation in his full glory. the first person that does it gets a cookie from me.

[WestRider]

Nov 23, 2014 22:38:04 GMT Davor said:

Does any other army have formations in formations that come out to ridiculous point costs?

Yeah. Most of the newer Supplements have a Super-Formation that consists of all the other Formations in the Codex together. I think the SW one comes to something like 4500 Points minimum. Skytide can be fielded at 3K, by anyone crazy enough to have 6 Harpies, 3 Crones, 4 Flyrants, and 110 Gargoyles.

[liberame]

Only 110 gargoyles? Income tax season is around the corner, I've already got 60 lol

[overhive]

Nov 24, 2014 15:15:54 GMT WestRider said:

Nov 23, 2014 22:38:04 GMT Davor said:

Does any other army have formations in formations that come out to ridiculous point costs?

Yeah. Most of the newer Supplements have a Super-Formation that consists of all the other Formations in the Codex together. I think the SW one comes to something like 4500 Points minimum. Skytide can be fielded at 3K, by anyone crazy enough to have 6 Harpies, 3 Crones, 4 Flyrants, and 110 Gargoyles.

You forgot you still need a standard CAD lol tack on another flyrant and 2 mucloids

[gigasnail]

No you don't.

[overhive]

Nov 24, 2014 17:13:20 GMT gigasnail said:

No you don't.

How so? Skytide is a formation so it only takes up the formation slot for all of its models. I have been under the impression that you still require a standard CAD with compulsory hq and troops. Am I mistaken in that regard?

[fleetofclaw]

Nov 24, 2014 17:29:45 GMT overhive said:

Nov 24, 2014 17:13:20 GMT gigasnail said:

No you don't.

How so? Skytide is a formation so it only takes up the formation slot for all of its models. I have been under the impression that you still require a standard CAD with compulsory hq and troops. Am I mistaken in that regard?

A formation is a detachment. A CAD is a specific type of detachment. You don't need a CAD to be battle forged otherwise most of the detachments that come in the new books wouldn't be usable (in a non-Unbound game).

So it would be perfectly legal to take Skytide all on its own. The only time you couldn't is if your game group or tournament (although I doubt there are a lot of 3k point tourneys out there) requires you take a CAD.

[gigasnail]

^this. There isn't a formation slot.

[mattblowers]

Just no in so many ways. I'll not be taking any formations of this point size. I don't know what GW is thinking. Do they actually think people regularly play such games? (I know it happens, just questioning how common it is.)

[fleetofclaw]

$720 of Crone/Harpy kits pretty much makes this a non-starter from the get go. Nice try GW, nice try.