Skytyrant - just to be thorough...

[seethe]

Could we add tyrant guards? I'm just brainstorming of course...could we plop a nid prime in that blob as well?

Further, could we add them to the toxic node tyrant as well? TS + RC would be cheap and neat.

As discussed a while back we could drop them in a pod to later join the tyrant.

Could we bring a nid prime in a pod joined with the tyrants guards and subsequently do some melee things with a nice melee kitted prime and loaner guards.

Not saying this will win you a grand prix, just saying.

[gigasnail]

you can't join a prime to the unit because it has an MC in it.

the guard i dunno off the top of my head, that one seems messy.

[liberame]

Prime can be with guards in pod and you can put guard with the tyrant in hypertoxic node, you can purchase guard for the skytyrsnt but they can't join him, nor can a prime

[seethe]

Once again im at work so I can't refer to rules books.

I should have remembered the prime can't join an MC, but I can't seem to recall a rule that says he can't join the guard. Now if he is with the guard i dont think the tyrant could join...or would he be able to and just auto boot the prime...it is messy.

I've only seen the toxic node rules second hand from cell phone pics, but it seems to me that the guard could join the node and benefit from the buffs? Do they gain the tyrants miasma ss far as measuring from the unit (tyrant+guard)

Anyways, im probably just over thinking things.

[liberame]

Think miasma is from model, not unit. So you measure from tyrant only, and the guards toxin won't get the ID on a 6

[WestRider]

You can include one Tyrant Guard Brood for each Tyrant in the Army. Doesn't say they have to be in any kind of particular Detachment. So yeah, you could take 3 Guard, Join a Prime to them, and drop them down in a 'Cyst while their Tyrant is part of the SkyTyrant Swarm.

[gigasnail]

^this you can do, sure. what OP i think was asking can you:

take the skytyrant formation
then add guard to it
then add a prime to it

which gets wonky as all hell

[WestRider]

Oh, yeah, no. The Tyrant Guard aren't ICs, so they can't Join another Unit, and the Tyrant can only be part of one Unit at a time, so it can't Join the Guard as well as the Gargs.

[Yautja]

I'm sure guards could hook up with the HT in the hypertoxic formation, take toxic sacs and enjoy the formation benefits?

[liberame]

Not in frint of my book, but I'm pretty sure its models from the formation get the benefits. Not units. So no the tyrant guard won't get the benefits

[beltrajor]

If anything,guards attached to the tyrant, would benefit from toxic miasma, making the unit really difficult to tarpit.

[seethe]

Nov 23, 2014 9:45:00 GMT Yautja said:

I'm sure guards could hook up with the HT in the hypertoxic formation, take toxic sacs and enjoy the formation benefits?

This is my main concern (misleading thread title and all). Also, why couldnt guard join skytyrant?

[Jabberwocky]

Because they don't join a Tyrant. They are a unit that a Tyrant can join.

[liberame]

Nov 23, 2014 10:24:02 GMT beltrajor said:

If anything,guards attached to the tyrant, would benefit from toxic miasma, making the unit really difficult to tarpit.

If you read toxic miasma, its the model in the unit unleashing toxic miasma, so the tyrant guard won't be able to benefit, aka the models in base contact with tyrant guard do not get affected by toxic miasma

[beltrajor]

Nov 23, 2014 12:37:34 GMT liberame said:

Nov 23, 2014 10:24:02 GMT beltrajor said:

If anything,guards attached to the tyrant, would benefit from toxic miasma, making the unit really difficult to tarpit.

If you read toxic miasma, its the model in the unit unleashing toxic miasma, so the tyrant guard won't be able to benefit, aka the models in base contact with tyrant guard do not get affected by toxic miasma

Itv says it hits models in contact with any model in the UNIT. If it said MODEL, then I would concur with you , but it's not what it says, IMHO.