1500 New Nids.

[l0rdf1end]

So I'm currently trying to think up something competitive outside of Skyblight that can deal with Wraith Knights, Tau and other horrid top Tier lists.

It's pretty hard to achieve but so far I quite like this:

Flyrant, Dual Devs, E-Shock Grubs 240
Flyrant, Dual Devs, E-Shock Grubs 240

Mucolid Spore 15
Mucolid Spore 15

Venomthrope 45

Hive Crone 155
Hive Crone 155
Hive Crone 155

Tyrannocyte 75
Tyrannocyte 75
Toxicrene 160
Toxicrene 160

1490

Zero Objective secured units but it packs quite a punch.
Crones help with flyers and vector strike Wraith Knights, Broadsides, Serpents...
Toxicrenes really want to eat a WraithKnight, 2+ cover saves when landing sitting behind a pod or in ruins.
I quite like the list because its a little less reliant on the Flyrants.

[macdaddyt]

1 Too many Hive crones (1-2 is more than enough)

2 Venomthrope won't be able to keep up and or will die easily (Free Fiest blood basically)

3 Toxicrenes in pods doesn't really make me want to use e'm. They seem to squishy to me. 4+ arm, (3+ cover if you hide behind pod but a lot of army's ignore cover now) and aren't as versatile as other units. I would prefer Dakkafexen but that's just me.

4 taking out a Crone, Venomthrope, and replacing the Toxis with Fexeb gives you an Extra 220 points to play with!

Just my 2 pennies

[l0rdf1end]

3 Crones are in there to have ample ability to deal with Flyers and threaten things like Skyrays. I want the Skyrays to jink

Also the vector strikes on Broadsides is pretty useful considering its a random hit allocation.
After you've shot at the unit to kill off the drones, 3 follow up vector strikes to ID Broadsides is pretty nice.

Venomthrope has proven its worth to me in many games now. You need some protection from Alpha strike lists.
I'd rather give up first blood than lose a Flyrant/Crone.

Toxicrenes in Pods are purely to counter Wraith Knights.
I have no idea how successful that will be but Ill try it out.
I appreciate they aren't going to help with Imperial Knights.

[macdaddyt]

If the crones work for you than so be it! I just think three is overkill. O

Still not convinced about the Venomthrope but in my meta when my opponents see a Venomthrope or a Maly they get focused like crazy lol. (LOS blocking terrain is my only hope unless I'm playing a guard list that has Wyveryns.

The Toxicrenes are def worth a shot but Im just not sure about them yet. They will fail against anything that's got an ARM value but if you can catch a WK or Riptide it will die! Just try to box the MC you want to kill in with the pods and other models so they can't just jump away!

*Edit*: sorry btw didn't realize that my entire post had been cut out! I just hit submit and then left the forum due to work :/