1700 Pt Tournament Oct 18th

[tylertt]

Hey Hive, so I finally got a chance to get into a tournament at my local GW. It is a 1700 Pt tourney with no limits on anything really (My local GW is pretty tame on FW and other things as far as I know thankfully).

Anyways, I have made up a couple lists and would like some input or discussion on them.

List #1:
1698 Pts

HQ
Hive Tyrant - x2 TL Devouers, Wings, E-Grubs
Tervigon - E-Grubs, Crushing Claws

Elite:
x3 Hive Guard
Zoanthrope
Zoanthrope
Venomthrope
Venomthrope

Troops:
x3 Rippers
x3 Rippers
x3 Warriors - Barbed Strangler, Devouers, Scything Talons
x3 Warriors - Barbed Strangler, Devouers, Scything Talons

Fast Attack:
x10 Gargoyles
x10 Gargoyles
Hive Crone - Stinger Salvo

Heavy Support:
x3 Biovores
Tyrannofex - Acid Spray, Electroshock Grubs, Adrenal Glands

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List #2
1698 Pts

HQ
Hive Tyrant - x2 TL Devouers, Wings, E-Grubs
Tervigon - E-Grubs, Crushing Claws

Elite:
x3 Hive Guard
Zoanthrope
Zoanthrope
Venomthrope
Venomthrope

Troops:
x3 Rippers
x3 Rippers
x3 Warriors - Barbed Strangler, Devouers, Scything Talons
x3 Warriors - Barbed Strangler, Devouers, Scything Talons

Heavy Support:
x3 Biovores
Carnifex - x2 TL Devs
Carnifex - x2 TL Devs
Tyrannofex - Acid Spray, Electroshock Grubs

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List #3:
1700 Pts

HQ
Hive Tyrant - x2 TL Devouers, Wings, Hive Commander

Elite:
x3 Hive Guard
Zoanthrope
Venomthrope

Troops:
Tervigon - E-Grubs, Crushing Claws
x30 Termagants - x10 Devouers

Fast Attack:
x15 Gargoyles
Hive Crone

Heavy Support:
x2 Biovores
x2 Carnifex - x2 TL Devs
Tyrannofex - Acid Spray, Electroshock Grubs, Adrenal Glands

[gigasnail]

convert you some malanthropes, stat!

single source, no self ally? need more info on your list building rules.

[tylertt]

No self ally, standard rules from the BRB for detachments. (Multiple detachments, unbound, FW allowed).

And yes Malanthropes would be utterly amazing for this lol…may just be the incentive to get ahold of one or a few!

As of right now I am leaning towards either list 1 or 2 currently. I wish I owned another Flyrant right about now too.

[gigasnail]

Get another flyrant and at least one malanthrope stat. A week and a half is enough time to get then built and at least tabletop standard if you have the cash or friends to borrow from.

I'd run a single garg unit of 20 instead of two 10's. Bigger footprint for walling off/bubble wrap/tarpit and can survive a few hits with w/e.

[tylertt]

Yeah I am going to look into getting another Flyrant ASAP, getting a Malanthrope in time is not quite as doable however. Been spending a lot of time on my Marines lately and just found about this tourney yesterday.

Hmmm now the question is what list to add the extra Flyrant into if I can obtain one.

[gigasnail]

you have a lot of bloat in the troops and elites section. can fit one in easily.

[tylertt]

So I am going to stick with either list 1 or 2 and modify it for plans for a second flyrant if I can obtain one.

Now my question is, do I stick with the screening Gargs & Crone, or go for the Fexes?

Also the second thing I am unsure of, should I stick with two detachments? Or should I just rid myself of the Tervigon?

[tylertt]

Came up with a new list. Really my only concern with this one is the amount of models I have to move.

1697 Pts

HQ:
Hive Tyrant - x2 TL Devouers, Wings, E-Grubs
Hive Tyrant - x2 TL Devouers, Wings, E-Grubs

Elites:
x3 Hive Guard
Venomthrope
Venomthrope

Troops:
Tervigon - E-Grubs, Crushing Claws
x30 Termagants
x3 Warriors - Barbed Strangler

Fast Attack:
x17 Gargs
Hive Crone

Heavy Support:
x2 Biovores
Tyrannofex - Acid Spray, Electroshock Grubs

[gigasnail]

you can do double cad? in this environment, you need to either exploit triple flyrant + HQ terv, or quad flyrant.

[tylertt]

Yeah, double CAD is in. I only wish I could run triple Flyrant, don't have the funds to get more then one of them currently.

What are your thoughts on the list above? I feel it is pretty solid, however my competitive experience literally is nothing as I have only played mini tourneys with the two guys in my gaming group.

[gigasnail]

it's pretty solid; but you know my thoughts on troop tervs. but running them with venoms, always keeping them in cover for that 2+, might be a different story for a turn or two until they kill the venoms.


with that list, you might as well add one more biovre, swap the tfex for an exo and run LAN.

[tylertt]

Yeah good idea. I also agree on the troops Terv. I have had great success running the Terv in the majority of my lists and want to try and include it if possible.

My only real reasoning on going the troops path is that I'd screen with the Gargs first, then have a second wall of Gants to help with cover. Plus Tervs/Tfexes make excellent line of sight blocking pieces for the venoms.

I'm going to try and get a few games in against my brothers Eldar with the above list, and then one with fitting in the LAN.

In your opinion Giga, what would you put into the above list if you removed the terv as a troops? Would you try and keep it and fit in dual CADs? (I have basically everything except another Flyrant and Malanthropes )

[gigasnail]

i'd go single cad/LAN. if you're not exploiting 4 hq slots, no need for double cad. something like flyrant/flyrant, venom venom, terv/gants, gargs/crone, LAN. fit w/e else you can in with leftover points, DS ripper, another zoanthrope, a dakkfex if you have the points.

[tylertt]

Cool, appreciate the input man. I'll test a few of these out and post up results.

[gigasnail]

work out, stud!