Help me decide on FA choices for my current list please.

[lofton]

This is my current list because it is about all I have besides the troop portion of the endless swarm boxed set. I am however looking to purchase more models and need some insight. I want to be able to do my best against Eldar, Tau, and Chaos Daemons as they are very popular at the moment and I see them a lot.

My question is do I go with 2 harpies when I expand my list to 2k or 2 crones? I was thinking harpies because they have the template and the way I win the most is by killing their troops so they cannot score as easily against me. The other question I have is how good are the mawlocs/trygons, good enough to ditch a carnifex or Exocrine? I have been wanting 2 flyers for a while and also like the trygon model but if I will not use them often I do not want to spend the extra money.



Flyrant, 2 Dev, Grubs 240

Flyrant, 2 Dev, Grubs 240

Tervigon W/Termagaunts x30 315

Venomthrope 45

Zoanthrope 50

Carnifex 150 2 Dev, TLBL

Carnifex 150 2 Dev, TLBL

Exocrine 170

[jaysic]

Crone are harpies if you want a cookie cutter army.

I vote for shrikes

[Moontyranid]

i say crones to get rid of av13 stuff and and some ignorecover.
and no trygons and mawlocks are not better then a dakkafex. mawlocks are just to random and trygons are just to expensive.

[coredump]

Trygons are bad.
Harpies are bad, people only take them when running Skyblight.

Mawlocs are trickier.... I don't think the are very good (too unreliable) but they deal with things like a Centstar or an invisible unit, better than just about anything in the game.

Crones are ace. My advice is only take one, but others have luck with two.

Living Artillery Node (Exo, warriors,biovores) is a handy formation.

[lofton]

I appreciate all of the advice! How reliable is the Crone at dealing with wave serpents, riptides, and wraithknights? I am unsure if more dakka is better or the better AP. I saw reports that the crone is unreliable which got me thinking that maybe more shots would be better. I guess my only other option would be to run 2 exocrines, carnifex brood, and 2 flyrants and they would have to choose what to target first. However, I would guess the exocrines would be their biggest threat because it could pen them more reliably and they would kill them first. Any tips on mass wave serpent spam or mech in general.

[Yautja]

Well the Crone Vector Strikes @ S8 which is nice. Have you also considered the Dimachaeron?

[pandaborg]

If you want to be different you could even use a dima. However, out of those two options the crone is the more versatile marginally.

[lofton]

I didn't want to buy any forgeworld stuff because it costs so much and personally I didn't care for the looks of the dima or the shrikes. I don't aim to be different or the same more or less just prepared. I like my lists to be good all around lists so I can practice with it and get good with its strengths and weaknesses. I will probably pick up 1 crone and try that and if it doesn't work just fill out my heavy slots with more carnifex.

I do love the mawloc/trygon model but it will have to wait for another day they just don't fit with the them of my army atm.

[pandaborg]

I would recommend not using a trygon, considering that almost every other combat monster in our codex-haruspex excluded-is more points efficient now. I personally don't like mawlocs, but I can certainly see the appeal and how they could work.

[coredump]

Those are not good Crone targets. Crones are great against Air targets, really good against non-power armor troops, and not real good against other targets.

I honestly don't know what to do against 5+ wave serpents, getting past AV12 with a 3+ cover save.... The only ideas I think of 1) will get destroyed by any other list 2) Not sure if it will work anyway.

JY2 tried a test game with CCfexes, and while they still lost, they did pretty well, and that was before the malanthrope.

[Yautja]

I presume you've tried Hive Guard?

[lofton]

I have not tried hive guard as I do not have the models. I prefer to use the actual model, which is also why I have not tried the crones/harpies yet. Are the Hive guard worth investing in?

[jaysic]

Generally you get at least 1 pen with Hive guard, resulting in a snap shooting serpent, maybe killing it. I like them for 165 points and reducing their firepower

[mattblowers]

Oct 7, 2014 12:15:06 GMT lofton said:

I have not tried hive guard as I do not have the models. I prefer to use the actual model, which is also why I have not tried the crones/harpies yet. Are the Hive guard worth investing in?

I love hive guard. I think you need a lot to be worth it though. Best thing in the game against wave serpents. 2 Crones are amazing and fit into more lists easier.