1850 skyblight competitive list

[saleen302]

Hello guys I was looking for some advice I plan to play test each list but I have narrowed it down to two very similar lists
1 flyrant twin devs and e-shock
1 flyrant twin devs eshock
2x3 deepstrikes rippers
1 malenthrope

Skyblight
1 fly rant twin devs eshock
1 crone
1 harpy with stranglethorn and cluster spines
1 harpy with stranglethorn and cluster spines
3x20 gargoyles with toxin sacs

That's 1830 and would still give me 20 pts to play with and the toxin on the gargs could threaten wraith knights ,dread knights and similar threats and with that many gargs wounding everything on 4's would be nice. Here is the other list
1 flyrant twin devs and e-shock
1 flyrant twin devs eshock
2x3 deepstrikes rippers
1 malenthrope
1 crone

Skyblight
1 flyrant twin devs eshock
1 crone
1 harpy with stranglethorn and cluster spines
1 harpy with stranglethorn and cluster spines
2x20 gargoyles
17 gargoyles


The only real difference is the extra crone in exchange for the toxin sacs. I feel the toxin sacs can be very useful but are also situational. But the extra crone can come in handy for vector striking centurions and similar targets and having some extra haywire missiles is always nice too. Give me your thoughts guys I have all the models for both lists already minus twenty gargs which I plan to buy and start painting ASAP.

[armyofterror]

I would definately run the list with the second Crone. I think he will do a lot more for you than the gargoyles which will get shot to pieces since everything else is flying. You could always knock the 17 man unit to 10 and add poison to one of the 20 man units if you really want poison. Are you planning on DSing the Gargoyles or starting them on the board?

[nameless]

I'd go with smaller units of Gargoyles with AG. You want them to die completely then come back, with larger units that's harder. I don't know how many gargoyles you own, three units of 13 are 4 packs of gargoyles and come to less points than 57 total.

Your gargoyles can already harm wraithknights with blinding venom. AG gives you fleet and lets you also hurt back AV10 vehicles.

[saleen302]

My main plan for the list was just to rush the gargs across the board as fast as possible and either kill or tarpit anything I can, while I use my flyers to gang up on other isolated targets. The malenthrope was there so that if I don't get the first turn I can leave all my flyers in reserve and still have synapse I the board. And have a shroud bubble on two squads on gargs as they move up the field.

[saleen302]

The reason I am leaning more toward to toxin list is because instead of tarpitting high toughness mc's I may actually have a shot at killing them. The gargs with any luck should be able to make a turn 2 assault and if he spends all his time shooting the gargs it allows me to fly around with my mc's causing havoc.the toxin on my gargs forces my opponent to deal with them , it does make the squads alittle pricey but if he wipes them out I get them back on a 4+ anyways. I think it may screw with my opponents target priority. The reason I choose big squads is to try to deny my opponent an easy first blood point and having a wall of gargoyles coming at you turn two could cause some panic.