brand new hive needs advice

[davidhunter]

hi guys, brand new to tyranids so I was hoping you could help me make a couple of decisions.

I've got a basic hive atm, swarmlord hq and a warrior prime.

2 venomthroaps and a zoanthroap

hormagaunts, termagaunts, 3 warrior squads and I've literally just picked up a carnifex.

if I give my carnifex 2 sets of twinlinked devourers does he get to fire them all or would I be better giving him scything talons and devourers?

and what would you suggest I get next? I've been looking at squads of gargoyles/biovores or a flyrant but I'm open too suggestions.

thanks for the help guys.

[armyofterror]

The carnifex can fire both (MC can fire two weapons), and it is the best way to equip carnifex's. For your next purchase I would get a winged Tyrant with two Devourers (flyrant). He is our best unit in the codex, and every army should include one, if not two.

[jimmyp]

Gargoyles are excellent i am currently building painting another 10 to make up 20 for my brood. Like what armyofterror says get at least 2 flyrants with devs they are well cool. Most of the heavy option is excellent, if you play against marines alot the exocrine is sweet with ap2 6 shoots/large blast. Or if you play against toughness 3 stuff tyrannofex with acid spray at strength 6 is really fun! =P most of the time buy models you like the look of and will enjoy painting building...

[Kwodd]

Make that swarmlord into a dakka flyrant. If you like the warrior prime he does well in an outflanking squad of guants.

[davidhunter]

Thanks for the advice.

So, flyrants are popular then :)don't they have a special rule that allows stuff too outflank (Hive commander i think)

Main idea is to swarm the table, outflank with gaunts and stealers and have a few in front of my heavier units (carnifex, tyranofex) backed up with venomthroaps so i can abuse cover.

Gargoyles are the next thing i think tbh, with them being jump infantry i can throw them up the table and hopefully lock stuff into combat before they can shoot my outflanking troops down.

[jimmyp]

flyrants are quality take two everytime myself, yeah they have hive commander for outflank i have heard doing this with devilgaunts is a good tactic or even a tervigon.
stealers outflanking is not so cool they can not charge on the turn they arrive so sit in the open getting shoot at....for a turn.
gargoyles are fun and effective unit the blinding venom is really great, just finished building my 20 gargoyles today.

[davidhunter]

Figured that outflanking stealers would be a bad idea, shame considering a friend gave me 30 of the things when i first started putting my hive together. Never mind i'll just have to run them up the table with the heavier guys, suppose if i can get the gargoyles into cc and they survive long enough they'll be ok, i hope......

Tervigon seems like a very intresting model, main problem is i'm so scared of rolling doubles on it's first turn (doubles cause it too stop spawning right?). Knowing my luck i'd end up rolling 3 1's on the first turn or i'd get 3 6's only to have it die and cause that horrific backlash rule.

Whats everyones experiance with the tervigon been like?

[Osedaxx]

Tervigons are expensive and "ok" for the job that they should be doing as backfield synapse. With 7th out and about for a while, I find myself using less and less of them and have replaced them with either a pair of single Zoans for Warp Charges, OR my fancy new Malanthrope.

However that's not to say that they're not terribad. If you have some extra points kicking around, throw a Miasma Cannon on that bad boy and it makes for a nasty surprise if people want to DS behind you late game. They're pretty damn tough to get off an objective if you park one on it. Poop out a few gaunts as a bubble and you're good.

[armyofterror]

Tervigons are be as good as with our last codex, but they are still a solid unit. It's hard to justify them over a Flyrant in a HQ spot which means you have to run them as a troop and pay the gaunt tax. However, they are one of the few (if any) objective secured MC:) you can get lucky and roll catalyst for them, making them even tougher to move. Throw E Grubs on them and laugh when the deep striking furioso wants to charge. I really like to outflank with it using the Tyrants give commander. Again with E Grubs and crushing claws they make quick work of an opponents armor sitting in the backfield. To be fair, I don't roll doubles a lot because I forget to spawn their gaunts 50% of the turns lol. If you are afraid to roll doubles, wait and only spawn when you need them. If your just sitting in the backfield with the 30 gaunt unit, it's not imperative that you immediately make more right then.

[blucord]

My advice is to get a harpy or crone, or both. For me they have over played their point cost. Plus you get spore mines if you don't hit. Putting pressure on back field campers/ objective holders. Or throwing down a line in front of some aggressive cc units. Def get at least one flyrant. He changes the whole concept of game play. Gargoyles are fantastic, my fav small unit choice, 30-40 of those bad boys are very frustrating to your opponent. Primes are fun with outflanking gants with devs, expensive but effective. Big mama is a cool mc, back field anchor is her best place.

[Kwodd]

Sept 21, 2014 18:36:39 GMT davidhunter said:

Figured that outflanking stealers would be a bad idea, shame considering a friend gave me 30 of the things when i first started putting my hive together. Never mind i'll just have to run them up the table with the heavier guys, suppose if i can get the gargoyles into cc and they survive long enough they'll be ok, i hope......

Tervigon seems like a very intresting model, main problem is i'm so scared of rolling doubles on it's first turn (doubles cause it too stop spawning right?). Knowing my luck i'd end up rolling 3 1's on the first turn or i'd get 3 6's only to have it die and cause that horrific backlash rule.

Whats everyones experiance with the tervigon been like?

I don't let my tervigon get close to my 30 blob squad, if she's doing synaptic backlash it'll only be on spawned guants, easy come easy go.