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[multigaunt]

I'm thinking in put 3 Biovores and some TGaunts instead of a T-fex and a swarm unit.
I'm gonna test this version tomorrow against Space Wolves.

I don´t know if i put the Biovores in one unit or 1x1 and 1x2 units. What do you think?

[ptderfel]

Just take one unit of 2 biovores


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[nameless]

Sept 20, 2014 18:28:37 GMT multigaunt said:

I'm thinking in put 3 Biovores and some TGaunts instead of a T-fex and a swarm unit.
I'm gonna test this version tomorrow against Space Wolves.

I don´t know if i put the Biovores in one unit or 1x1 and 1x2 units. What do you think?

If you have the slots, it's better to put them in individual units although you have to be careful about first blood.

[multigaunt]

The game against SW was a complete disaster. 4 Pods with a lot of meltas , lord in wolf plus 3 friends in wolves, a flyier with 10 blood claws (now with another name), these gays made 40A!!!! when charging, plus another of these on the ground. The game was rapid and bloodiest. My troops on the ground were destroyed by turn 3 and only my flyers survived to make some points destroying the sw flyer and some pods.
The Biovores against these kind of army are useless (or i use them badly). I cannot control the table with so many things droping from the sky.

Meanwhile, yesterday played against Marines, with lots of Bikes with grav guns, Centurion deathstar with Tigurius, thunderfire cannon and some marines.
Lost, but was tied until the last turn.
Again, Biovores did nothing, but the gaunts charge 2 units of bikes and tarpit theme for the rest of the game.

I cannot put Biovores to work against marines, maybe is may fault, but i don't know. I'm kind disappointed with them.
I'm not going back to the second T-fex ( i have to buy it and paint it)...i don't know. i'm really undecided what to use.

Nameless: Because i've only 2 Heavy support slots left, i use them 1x2 and 1x1.

Help, please.

[tag8833]

Sept 25, 2014 18:54:39 GMT multigaunt said:

The game against SW was a complete disaster. 4 Pods with a lot of meltas , lord in wolf plus 3 friends in wolves, a flyier with 10 blood claws (now with another name), these gays made 40A!!!! when charging, plus another of these on the ground. The game was rapid and bloodiest. My troops on the ground were destroyed by turn 3 and only my flyers survived to make some points destroying the sw flyer and some pods.
The Biovores against these kind of army are useless (or i use them badly). I cannot control the table with so many things droping from the sky.

Meanwhile, yesterday played against Marines, with lots of Bikes with grav guns, Centurion deathstar with Tigurius, thunderfire cannon and some marines.
Lost, but was tied until the last turn.
Again, Biovores did nothing, but the gaunts charge 2 units of bikes and tarpit theme for the rest of the game.

I cannot put Biovores to work against marines, maybe is may fault, but i don't know. I'm kind disappointed with them.
I'm not going back to the second T-fex ( i have to buy it and paint it)...i don't know. i'm really undecided what to use.

Nameless: Because i've only 2 Heavy support slots left, i use them 1x2 and 1x1.

Help, please.

If you get overwhelmed by drop pods it means one of 3 things.
1) You didn't deploy right (giving the drop pods good targets)
2) You don't have enough shrouded coverage (more Venoms, or preferably Malans)
3) You don't have enough screening units.  Drop some rippers, add Gargoyles or Gants.

Always remember that whatever comes out of the drop pods should die or be in combat by the end of your first turn.  Sometimes that means throwing a FMC into close combat.  If you list can't do this, it means there is something wrong with your list.  


Biovores are certainly not always useful.  I don't take them except with LAN, because then they get twin linking and become reliable at least.  One thing to always remember about biovores is that they have assault weapons, 2 Attacks, and 3 Wounds.  You can do damage with them in assault, or at least tarpit marines.  3 biovores can deal with most anything that comes out of a drop pod.


The main problem with your list is too many templates and not enough Dakka.  Swapping in another TFex wouldn't help you much.  You need dakka.  Consider a Dakkafex or two.  If you love templates as much as it seems, maybe you could try an exocrine as a sort of methadone to help you step your way down.  They can fire a template, but most of the time, they fire their assault 6 guns.  They cost about the same as a TFex, and do quite a bit more damage vs space marines. 

The other thing that you should get is a screen.  20 Gargoyles.  20 hormagants, something like that.  Rippers are incredibly popular in certain circles these days, but they take away synergies from your army that you would gain with a screen / tarpit.   Until you have played games with gants, and felt "Gee, I don't need this many gants, but i do need more mobility", you should probably avoid them.  

I know that you feel like Rippers score you a bunch of points.  But scoring points doesn't help if your firepower is quickly reduced.   Also, Gants with better board control, survivability, and tarpitting ability allow you to both score points, and deny points to your opponent.  

[multigaunt]

Today i've got some news about the type of armies that are coming to paly in the tournament.

Space marines- Majority with bikes (3 gravs) on troops, centaurs in pod+tigurius, scouts. Some of them with allied SW to bring a pod and stormwolf.
Chaos SM with typhus and friends, big units of spawns an obliterators.
Necrons with barge spam and arks, another with spam of flyiers.
Necrons with c'than and is 2 templates, barges and immortals.
Astra Militarum, with taurox spam. another more classic with tanks and some big blobs of guardmens, another wiyh flying cav.
Deamons with the combo above, bel'akor, big units of fiends and screamers.
Eldar with serpent swarm, some with wraithknight, others with 3 walkers.
Tau with 3 riptides, another with only 2 but with eldar allies.
Dark Eldar with venom spam (with older codex), anothe with beast deathstar.
Grey knights, one with dragowing, another with 2 dreadknights, raven and purifiers.
Nids with 2 Flyrants, lictors and mawlocs. Another with 2 flyrants and 3 dakkafexs.
Until now, no orks.
A lot more people, but with lists more friendly, and not so strong (i hope).

With this inside info, what do you think about this:

Dakka Tyrant, Elect. grubs
Dakka Tyrant, Elect. grubs

Zoan
Zoan
Venom

Ripper swarmx3 DS
Ripper swarmx3 DS
Ripper swarmx4 DS
27Gaunts

Crone
Crone

T-Fex, 2 templates
2 Biovores
1 Biovore

or



Dakka Tyrant, Elect. grubs
Dakka Tyrant, Elect. grubs

Zoan
Venom

Ripper swarmx3 DS
Ripper swarmx3 DS
Ripper swarmx3

Crone
Crone

T-Fex, 2 templates
2Dakkafexs

Don't forget the tournament use rules like BAO.

Thanks.

[tag8833]

List 1 doesn't have enough Dakka. Too many templates. Also units of 27 gants are unwieldy. I prefer units of 20 or so.

List 2 doesn't have enough synapse or screening units. Also probably too many templates, but that is your thing, so I'm not going to dissuade you. You've got to drop a Crone / Dakkafex or TFex to make room for another Zoey, and 20 Hormagants or Gargoyles. If it were me, that TFex would be gone in an instant.