help with my 1000p tyranid list

[kontansuperu]

Hey, I am in need of some ideas to make this the best list I can, my main foes are necrons and MEQ, we dont own any fliers so aa is not neccisary.  So here it is, p.s. sorry for the bad format, I had to do it on my tablet.:

+++ Tyranids 1000p (1002pts) +++

+++ 1000pt Tyranids: Codex (2014) Roster (Combined Arms Detachment)) +++

Selections:

Tyranids: Codex (2014) (Combined Arms Detachment) Selections:

+ HQ + (195pts)

    * Hive Tyrant

        (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature)

        Powers of the Hive Mind, Psyker (Mastery Level 2) (Psyker), Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms , Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms

+ Elites + (155pts)

    * Hive Guard Brood

        * Hive Guard

            (Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk, Very Bulky)

            Impaler Cannon

        * Hive Guard

            (Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk, Very Bulky)

            Impaler Cannon

    * Venomthrope Brood

        * Venomthrope

            (Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk, Poisoned (2+), Shrouded, Spore Cloud, Very Bulky)

            Lashwhips, Toxic Miasma

+ Troops + (532pts)

    * Termagant Brood

        * 14x Spinefist Termagant

            (Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk, Move Through Cover)

            14x Spinefists

    * Termagant Brood

        * 14x Spinefist Termagant

            (Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk, Move Through Cover)

            14x Spinefists

    * Tyranid Warrior Brood

        * Tyranid Warrior

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Scything Talons

        * Tyranid Warrior

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Scything Talons

        * Tyranid Warrior

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Scything Talons

    * Tyranid Warrior brood

        * Tyranid Warrior

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Scything Talons

        * Tyranid Warrior

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Scything Talons

        * Tyranid Warrior

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Scything Talons

    * Tyranid Warrior Brood

        * Tyranid Warrior

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Scything Talons

        * Tyranid Warrior

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Scything Talons

        * Tyranid Warrior

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Scything Talons

    * Tyranid Warrior Brood

        * Tyranid Warrior

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands , Devourer, Scything Talons

        * Tyranid Warrior

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands , Devourer, Scything Talons

        * Tyranid Warrior 

            (Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky)

            Adrenal Glands), Devourer, Scything Talons

+ Heavy Support +

    * Biovore Brood (Codex: Tyranids p94)

        * Biovore

            (Instinctive Behaviour - Hunt, Spore Burst, Very Bulky)

            Spore Mine Launcher

        * Biovore 

            (Instinctive Behaviour - Hunt, Spore Burst, Very Bulky)

            Spore Mine Launcher

        * Biovore

            (Instinctive Behaviour - Hunt, Spore Burst, Very Bulky)

            Spore Mine Launcher

[almostmercury]

What other models do you have? Our main workhorses are the Hive Tyrant and the Heavy Support slots. Do you have anything other than Biovores for HS? You could easily free up some points from Troops as you have a lot of warriors.

[jimmyp]

Wow you have loads of warriors, heavy element is very low Is there no vehicles? If so try to get in electroshock grubs and a carnifex. Also no venomthrope?? I always have one of them or even two.
What's the reason on choosing spine fists over fleshborers??

[kontansuperu]

Hey, thanks for the reply, i forgot to mention i have basically no experience with tyranids hence the reason i am asking for help xD. I have been looking up and fiddling with the list and come up with this. At this stage I have no warriors but i am borrowing them off of a friend who has basically anything you can think of xD. well no gene-stealers but i never like them tbh. the Spine fists, i don't know what the statistics are with the most effective of the two but i am using them 90% of the time as a meat shield for that cover save, and worst case scenario i gives an extra attack in cc when i am in the front line and i use it for a tarpit. so here is the list i am looking at so far:

HQ (195pts)
Hive Tyrant (195pts)
Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature
Powers of the Hive Mind, Psyker (Mastery Level 2) (Psyker), Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms

Elites (45pts)
Venomthrope Brood
Venomthrope
Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk, Poisoned (2+), Shrouded, Spore Cloud, Very Bulky
Lashwhips, Toxic Miasma

Troops (345pts)
Termagant Brood
15x Spinefist Termagant
Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk, Move Through Cover
15x Spinefists
Termagant Brood
15x Spinefist Termagant
Instinctive Behaviour - Lurk, Move Through Cover
15x Spinefists
Tyranid Warrior Brood (120pts)
Tyranid Warrior
Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky
Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Rending Claws
Tyranid Warrior
Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky
Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Rending Claws
Tyranid Warrior
Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky
Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Rending Claws
Tyranid Warrior Brood (105pts)
Tyranid Warrior
Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky
Adrenal Glands , Devourer, Scything Talons
Tyranid Warrior
Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky
Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Scything Talons
Tyranid Warrior
Shadow in the Warp, Synapse Creature, Very Bulky
Adrenal Glands, Devourer, Scything Talons

Heavy Support (410pts)

Biovore Brood (80pts)
Biovore
Instinctive Behaviour - Hunt, Spore Burst, Very Bulky
Spore Mine Launcher
Biovore
Instinctive Behaviour - Hunt, Spore Burst, Very Bulky
Spore Mine Launcher
Carnifex Brood (330pts)
Carnifex
Fearless, Instinctive Behaviour - Feed, Living Battering Ram
Adrenal Glands, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms
Carnifex
Fearless, Instinctive Behaviour - Feed, Living Battering Ram
Adrenal Glands, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms, Twin-linked Devourer with Brainleech Worms

Once again sorry for the format, so with the slight changes, any issues that need addressing? I appreciate the feedback =P

[jimmyp]

try to use a flying hive tyrant if you can otherwise it wont get to do much i found, second list looks cool so far =D
my 1000 list id usually two fly-rants one cc (BS&LS) and other twin BLD "both with electroshock grubs for vehicles", one venom, one zoan, 20 termagants and two carnifex with twin BLD.i play against eldar and blood angels regular and do very well!

[kontansuperu]

would there be any way to deal with the quantum shielding of the Necrons tanks without having ot take multiple ESgrubs, i am thinking just charging the carnifex(s) into them but in the case of the command barge i don't think its so wise to assault against his kitted out necron lord... i doubt a single grub on my tyrant can take out the tank and it only has a 1 in 6 chance to pen it... are there any more reliable anti-tank ideas or am i going to have to re-jiggle my list?

[almostmercury]

Anti-armor is where we suffer. Grubs on a flying unit is our most effective shooting attack for heavy armour. Your other option is Hive Guard with two shots at S8, but BS3.

[kontansuperu]

hmm i think at the moment i might go with the grubs and then in 1250+ grab some guard

[almostmercury]

Aug 30, 2014 19:33:14 GMT kontansuperu said:

hmm i think at the moment i might go with the grubs and then in 1250+ grab some guard

For some reason Hive Crones slipped my mind. They have 4 Haywire missiles. If you get Hive Guard, the Impaler Cannon is still considered their best weapon. Ignoring Cover and not requiring Line of sight are excellent benefits.

[kontansuperu]

I tested out the 2 lists ( the one i listed most recently and one based on what you take, (thought i would give it a shot ;D)) and basically the flying cc hive tyrant helped quite a bit but like before i just could barely pop his tanks, i cant hit that rear armour and i cant glance as his armour is 13 front and sides, I feel i should remove the Biovores and chuck in the hive guard, the Biovores did nothing as either they were in a vehicle or immortals. along with this how would you go about getting rid of a command barge, my monster get slaughtered by it due to their low ld (MSS) and the 13 front and side and the inability to hit its back armour do to the fact its a chariot.