new to tyranids need advise on army list I'm planning on run

[kfinch37]

Hive Tyrant Acid Blood Regeneration Desiccator Larvae Shreddershard Beatles The Norn Crown Old Adversary Twin Linked Devourer with Brain leech worms

6 Tyranid warriors Venom Canon 5 deathspitters toxin sacs adrenal glands

6 Tyranid warriors Venom Canon 5 deathspitters toxin sacs adrenal glands

6 Tyranid warriors Venom Canon 5 deathspitters toxin sacs adrenal glands

6 Tyranid warriors Venom Canon 5 deathspitters toxin sacs adrenal glands

3 hive guard shockcanon

3 hive guard shockcanon

Haruspex regeneration

Haruspex regeneration

Hive crone cluster spines regeneration

Hive crone cluster spines regeneration

Exocrine regeneration

Exocrine regeneration

Tyrannofex fleshborer hive regeneration

Tyrannofex fleshborer hive regeneration

3300 points

[vandalex]

Hey man, welcome to the hive.

First off, I'm pretty sure were not able to post points on this forum unless it's very vague. It's a legal thing.

I don't know how you like to play, for fun or competitively, but I will critic you in a competitive manner.

Fist things first, haruspexes. I love the model, but they are a slow moving monstrous creature, and to be honest, not that good in cc.

Next, I would go with gants, lots of gants. Tyranids in the meta are so good at overwhelming our opponents and, while they die quickly, they will tie up most units in cc.

Have another pair of twin linked devs on your tyrant.

I would like to see some venomthropes in this list. Shrouded is the greatest thing for nods, we get a save on nearly everything, providing it is not removed.

I would remove regeneration on some mcs. The tyrannofex I would keep it on, and perhaps with the exocrine, but I would drop it on other mcs.

[kfinch37]

THx man. And I forgot to remove the points. I didn't add any because so many people use them

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[MOD]

Aug 11, 2014 19:15:58 GMT kfinch37 said:

THx man. And I forgot to remove the points.

Yes you did, which means when you were reminded, you should have edited the post and removed them.

I trust that next time they will not be listed...
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Before I can advise on the list.... how long have you been playing Nids? What point levels do you and your friends usually use? What kind of feedback are you looking for?

[kfinch37]

I just started playing nids.
I want any advise that would help and I'm hoping to play more than 2k which is why I posted this list.
And i wasn't reminded. I was being let know. I've only had my account for 12 hours I'm looking for positive and negative feedback

[coredump]

Heh.... coolness. No worries.

I had actually already edited your post to remove the points that you couldn't have. Unit totals are okay, just not the individual upgrades etc.

So
3 HG Shock 180pts is fine.

When playing games in the 3K+ range, it is really a different game, so its hard to give advice. I can give some general info though.

Regeneration looks good, but just isnt' worth it. It only means your opponent will focus down your MCs one at a time. You are better off just buying more units.

Warriors are fairly squishy, and don't have much offensive punch. I would only use them to unlock formations, or as 3 model units to provide synapse and hold backfield objectives.

Haruspex is, well... pretty bad. Better off taking another Fex, either CC or TLDevourers.

Fleshborer hive sounds good....but it doesn't work out that way. Stick with Acid Spray. You can take another thorax template if you want.

Your Hive Tyrant is about 300pts, thats 75pts a wound. T6 is nice, but not 75pts nice. You also have two thorax weapons.
Give it wings, and 2 TLdevourer guns. You can give it a thorax weapon, but I would probably stick with E grubs. Its a shooting platform, not CC, so you can skip the acid blood and old adversary. You have plenty of synapse, Norn crown is stupid expensive. (also, take two of these flyrants if you can.)

Shockcannons *should* be good, I mean c'mon... haywire blast... But they fail because only 18" range, require LoS, and do not ignore cover. Stick with the stock guns.

Devilfexes (carnifexes with 2 TL Devourers) are just rock solid performers, you really want some of these.

[kfinch37]

OK. Thanks. Any other advice

[blucord]

Wow that's a lot of points, when you say you are new to nids...how new? And I agree with core, your tyrant is to expensive, he will be destroyed first turn. Not worth the investment. However Two flyrants with TL devs and e-grubs is the way to go. And warriors are great! Luv the model and the lore behind them but they kinda suck with games over 1500 if they are you major troops slots. With big games you need cheap synapse creatures and they are fantastic for that but I would lose at least half of them. Hive guard are fantastic and I love the shock cannon, but I only run one to a brood, the impaler is just to good plus it's free!! The haruspex is by all means a stunning looking model, but his stat lines don't go well with his price, core covered it already but I had to mention it. Drop them and add venoms or zoans they will preform better. I like the Fmc's, crones are fun...drop regen though it's unnessary and over priced, exocrine are fun but not as fun as three dekkafexs!! Obviously there's a huge point jumped there but still so much fun!! Also try lots of gaunts, and I mean tons of them every where swarming everything locking up their MCS KILLERS with just bodies. Also look into formations, skyblight and living artillery are almost perfect.

[kfinch37]

I've only just got the codex. So I'm really new with nids. Also what's a dekkafex.

[gigasnail]

a dakkafex is a carnifex with two twin-linked brain-leech devourers. they fires 12 twin linked 18" S6 AP- shots, and are still S9 AP2 in CC. great unit.

[kfinch37]

OK. Is there anything else

[gigasnail]

follow core's advice. and 3k+ games get crazy. lot of firepower tossed around. prepare for a 'learning experience'

[kfinch37]

OK. Do any of you guys live in puyallup.

[gigasnail]

fresno/central valley california here