Question on using formations

[kenji10000]

Hello all, I just had a quick question about making an army. Is there a limit on how many formations you can take with a single primary detachment?

Specifically I want to run 2 Skyblights at 2500 and for my detachment I want to run a single HQ and 2 troops but wanted to make sure that was legal while staying battle forged. Thanks for help!

[gigasnail]

perfectly legal.

[kenji10000]

Awesome, thank you! I wasn't sure about restrictions in the new book, haven't bought it yet.

[gigasnail]

it sounds confusing when you're hearing about it on the net. then you read it, and it really is pretty simple.

if you're going battle forged, everything is in a detachment, and you can have unlimited detachments, so long as you can find the points for them. your primary detachment is the one you pick your warlord from. each detachment in a combined arms detachment (which is analogous to your standard FOC last edition) has a compulsory one HQ and two troops, and optional HQ, 4 troops, 3 elites, 3 FA, 3 heavy (just like you're used to). you can have an unlimited number of additional detachments from the same faction (codex) as long as they have the base 1 HQ, 2 troops.

formations are just another form of detachment.

so are allies.

the following would be a perfectly legal army list:

flyrant (WL)
flyrant
X10 gants
X10 gants

flyrant
flyrant
X10 gants
X10 gants

skyblight1
flyrant
harpy
harpy
crone
X15 garg
X15 garg
X15 garg

skyblight2
flyrant
harpy
harpy
crone
X15 garg
X15 garg
X15 garg

Bloodthirster, exalted gift, greater gift
X10 plaguebearers
soulgrinder, bale torrent, daemon of nurgle

lot of points, but you get the idea.

[kenji10000]

Cool! I'm doing

Flyrant
2X3 Warriors-BS each
Crone

Skyblight
Skyblight

I'm slowly working on getting all the models for it. I have run single skyblight lists to great effect so I'm excited to double up.

[gigasnail]

there you go ~

[atilha]

Bat! rep! bat! rep! bat! rep!

[coredump]

Giga has it mostly right.


There is nothing written in the rules that says all CA detachments need to be from the same faction.
The only restriction, is that any time you use the allied FOC, it must be a different faction than the faction used in the Primary CA detachment.

Please note: I am *only* talking from a BBB standpoint, the individual codices may provide additional restrictions or additional permissions.

From *just* the BBB, the following is allowed.

Primary Combined Armed Detachment:
1 HQ from CSM
1HQ from Black Legion
1 troop from CSM
1 troop from Crimson Slaughter

Additional CA detachment
1 HQ from Crimson Slaughter
2 troops from Black legion
1 FA from CSM
1 FA from Crimson Slaughter

Additional CA detachment
1 HQ from Dark Angels
2 troopos from DA

Additional CA detachment
1 Tau HQ
1 Farsight HQ
2 troops Farsight
1 HS Tau

First Allied detachment
1 Eldar HQ
2 Iyandan Troops
1 Eldar Elites

Additional Allied detachment
1 Tyranid HQ
2 tyranid troops


The only thing you *can't* do:
Additional allied detachment
1 Black Legion HQ
2 CSM troops



There is nothing stopping you from having multiple CA detachments from *any* codex you want, same faction, different faction, battle bros, CtA enemies.... nothing.

You can also take as many allies that you want, from any codex *except* ones from the same faction.

[coredump]

Hey wait... it gets even dumber...

If the requirement is to be Battle Forged, you don't even need the Combined Arms detachement.

At 2500pts:

Skyblight
SKyblight
Skyblight

2460pts

BATTLE FORGED!

[l0rdf1end]

I think it's a good idea to keep in mind that most tournaments will likely only allow you to use the FOC once, an Ally once and/or a Formation once.
But outside of tournaments...go wild!