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Post by Davor on Apr 21, 2014 15:05:18 GMT
Oh no. Feel like quitting again. Don't you hate it when you finally get some great painting in, paint a bit, then you see your colour scheme or something close to done way better?
I swear, I need to stop going to the painting section of these forums. I go for inspiration, and get lots of it, then finally after almost 15 I got a colour scheme I like. Problem is now, I see a lot of people using the same colours I did, but they did so much a better job than me, I just lost the will to paint. (well a few other factors stop me as well) but I don't have the heart to redo them now.
So what do you guys and girls do when you see your colour scheme out there, but done better. I am ashamed now to put out my work because it's not even 1/10th as good as the others are.
So what do I do? Yes I know, I need to keep going to get better, but just felt like I was given a blow between the legs right now.
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Post by krimson on Apr 21, 2014 15:22:56 GMT
We are all part of the hive fleet. Even if some models look better than ours, we can't really think that it hinders what we've done. We all have different amounts of time, money, and skill. You should be happy it is close to yours, as the details can be used to touch up your own troops. So what if they are the same color scheme? it's just two tendrils of the same hive fleet One of my color schemes (i have 3 to differentiate my units) looks like hive fleet behemoth, but instead of blue I use purple. I also use a white skin red carapace color scheme. and lastly I have my lava and ash gaunts. just because they are fun to paint, not because they haven't been done before. but because I think they fit my tastes, and are different enough to tell units apart. If you like what someone else has done, compliment them, and always know we can improve through practice and patience
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Post by greyseer on Apr 21, 2014 15:25:47 GMT
It just makes me want to analyze why I think it's better, replicate it, then improve upon it.
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Post by Inquisitor Stingray on Apr 21, 2014 15:52:59 GMT
Doesn't matter man, these are your models, you painted them, put in the effort, spend the time, money and energy on them. There'll always be someone out there who's better at, well anything you (as in, all of us) do, but that shouldn't kill your desire to get better and push on. Besides, these people, while talented, are completely foreign to you or at least not living close to you. If you were regularly playing in a club where someone else used a similar color scheme I could see the issue, but as it is you should just be proud and happy about your accomplishments. These are just various wavelengths bouncing off of plastic surfaces, but better the wavelengths I know and applied myself, than that of others.
I can understand and respect people who would like a professional painter to paint their models, but to me, even as a mediocre painter, this is a part of the hobby that I should aim to make as enjoyable as possible. I know for a fact that there are similar paint schemes out there, superior ones at that, but that's just how it is. And fortunately the gifted painters on this forum are all very nice and willing to share their experience.
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Post by FTGT-BeeCee on Apr 21, 2014 16:02:49 GMT
I think firstly, you should only be ashamed of your work if you cut corners and didn't do things to the level you know you are capable of doing.
Only you can decide what you want to get out of this hobby. If you want to have "pro-painted" quality stuff on the table, are you doing your homework and asking for tips/lookign at tutorials/practicing?
In this hobby it is unfortunate that we see the results of our "practice", the models that don't turn out are very visibile to us. Moreso than the 4 foul shots in a row that a basketball player may have missed earlier in a practice session.. so when in doubt, give them a bath of Simple Green and hit 'em again! unless you are going to a tourney or something it's not a race!
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Post by eskimo on Apr 21, 2014 16:46:24 GMT
BeeCee puts it incredibly well.
I used to rush my stuff to the table. But now i have an army i can spend decent amount of time on my new stuff.
I've researched and read, and it has helped allot. I have 3 expensive brushes, Vallejo paint and good tools. I don't rush or cut corners now. Taking the time to do teeth properly for example.
While i'm a noob at my work, i've often had complements for my models, knowing there is better but i'm happy with what i've done.
You learn best if you're having fun.
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Post by Davor on Apr 21, 2014 17:38:33 GMT
Thanks guys, you have helped. Been down abit, and once I read what you had to say, I see you guys are right.
Thank you.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2014 18:32:06 GMT
I think it was Yori on this board I once saw say "Plagiarism is just originality with good taste"(Idk if he's the originator but it sounded damned good).
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Post by nameless on Apr 21, 2014 20:25:30 GMT
There is always someone better.
My scheme is based upon a Warseer tutorial. I know that his are far better than mine, but I think nids are one of the most forgiving to paint, so having them all looking similar is usually good enough. I'll get better and better as I go though, but probably not to a point where I'll re-do my first ones.
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Post by jaysic on Apr 22, 2014 4:26:47 GMT
Firstoff; If you don't enjoy painting, and it's a chore, then don't do it if you don't enjoy that part of the hobby. If you're going to do the chore anyway, admit to yourself that you're going to do a quick 'table ready' paint scheme. Take pride in it. Enjoy the fully painted table on the army, and you'll feel more connected to your units and get a more fulfilling experience from each game.
Numero 2; Someone will always have something better than you, don't let this get you down. Be proud of what you did, and congratulate someone who took the time in (both in gaining experience, and the time it took to paint the model) to make it look like it does. Most people are willing to share the tips that really make a difference on both techniques, and what can shave off some time without cutting corners when setting a high standard. This should be inspiration, not a downer
Three; Really sit down and think 'How good do I want these to look?' Sit down, take the time (and look up tutorials if you need some advice), and do something like 10 gants, fully, one at a time. Clock the time it took to do the first gant, then the time it took to do the tenth. Use this as a benchmark to see your time investment you would have to look at your models, and decide if you want to do all your models at 100%, just your key units, or none at all and go for table top ready. If you don't like painting or modelling, that's ok. You don't have to. If you find your do get excitement from getting that model 'Just Right' (Well, close anyway), and your excited to put that model on the table every time you play, then I wish your brush a long life and paint that never dries out in the container.
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Post by Squire on Apr 22, 2014 9:11:12 GMT
What's your scheme? I'm intrigued.
I've thought a lot about original schemes for nids. I think there are a load of colours out there that don't often appear as main scheme colours in the 40k universe. Dark orange, pale orange (orange generally in fact), shades of purple (more specifically pale purple/lilac), pale green, pale yellow, dark yellow. Then there are earthy colours that you might see IG players use but tend not to be used much with tyranids or other armies, like tan and all shades of brown. I was considering a sort of dark carapace highlighting up to a progressively lighter brown/grey colour, a little like some kinds of shellfish or crustaceans, and with either a pale pink or pale blue skin skin to brighten the models up a bit. Another idea was pale green skin and a black carapace with dark grey highlights.
Unless you're going to be playing in the same group with a nid player with the same scheme I really wouldn't be bothered by it.
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Post by Davor on Apr 22, 2014 11:19:42 GMT
thetyranidhive.proboards.com/thread/45796/davors-hive-fleet-incubusHere is my link to my current minis I painted Squire. Was so happy with them, till I saw some of the others. After reading what you guys said it reminded me of what I always tell my son. "there is someone always taller than you, someone always better than you." Thanks for reminding me that.
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Post by commandersasha on Apr 22, 2014 16:16:34 GMT
Paint your models for you. If you want to get better, learn from others and practice. You could become the best painter on the Hive, but then a quick look at CoolMiniOrNot will make you cry again,
Personally, I find painting a chore, so coloured undercoat, colour-by-numbers for the other bits, and a slosh of Devlan Mud, and that's as good as I need to make my armies look cool. I envy CMON artists, just as I envy those guys on Youtube who can flip their bikes 60ft in the air, but as I don't want to be one of those OTHER guys on Youtube, who feature in the Fail compilations, I don't mind not being that good.
And what if you did become the greatest mini painter ever? Would you then be happy? Would the mayor give you the keys to the city? Last I heard the prize for Golden Demon wasn't 72 virgins, or even a couple of 35 year old divorcees(which would be my preference).
Compare yourself to others for positive encouragement; don't use them as a stick to beat yourself with.
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Post by beefythepug on Apr 23, 2014 23:27:17 GMT
Paint your models for you. If you want to get better, learn from others and practice. You could become the best painter on the Hive, but then a quick look at CoolMiniOrNot will make you cry again, Yup completely agree, I know my painting isn't going to win any competitions, but I always paint each model to the best of my own abilitity. Don't cut corners or cheat yourself and you'll be happier for it. Also Davor, FWIW I really dig your color scheme the contrast of skin/carapace looks great.
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Post by Davor on Apr 23, 2014 23:50:41 GMT
Thanks beefythepug. Almost have my birds done. Should be painting them soon. Will be posting them in the painting section hopefully this weekend. Just in modelling mood now, not painting.
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