HVC Spam?!

[gman25639]

Just thought f this and I am thinking I may be on to something: 3 broods of 3 carnifexes each, all with HVCs and 2 tyrants, also with HVCs, and then perhaps a harpy or two, with, you guessed it! HVCs. I think this could surprise an opponent with so many long-ranged S9 blasts raining down when he would probably expect you to rush forward as a massive wave. Combine with a few broods of infiltrating genestealers and perhaps some lictors and we are looking at a solid list, perhaps give the tyrants and/or fexes one set of devourers along with the HVCs for any need of anti-air/ closer range dakka. I picture the fexes and tyrants hanging back, or maybe one tyrant has wings, while harpies swoop over and everybody rains fire down while 'stealer broods and lictors give him a hard time and mop up what is left. Thoughts?

[gigasnail]

eeehhhhhh. man nothing has changed to make HVC a good choice. in all the combinations you have above (except the harpy, which is really the only decent platform for an HVC, and even then STC probably better in most instances) the HVC doesn't mesh well with the unit's other options. all our good weapons are medium to short range, 18-24". your list idea puts out a whopping 9 shots a turn. this is not a whole lot of long range firepower. by way of comparison, my friend james' henchman list puts out 30 lascannon shots per turn, and more depending on the points value he's running it at (as he can add rifleman dreads too).

[coredump]

A dozen long range blasts will surprise an opponent. Then he will get another surprise at how little damage was done to his army. Then a final surprise when you explain that you spent almost 1750pts on those 12 small blasts...

[Raven]

I think... spamming heavy venom cannons is more effective than spamming Pyrovores.

[gigasnail]

nuclear option, all in.

[Raven]

Mar 1, 2014 8:29:05 GMT gigasnail said:

nuclear option, all in.

Fantastic way to kill all your own Troops while leaving your opponent's vehicles untouched.

[coredump]

Mar 1, 2014 8:26:13 GMT Raven said:

I think... spamming heavy venom cannons is more effective than spamming Pyrovores.

Okay, maybe only because its almost 4AM, but that made me laugh out loud. My eyes are tearing up...

Mar 1, 2014 8:44:55 GMT Raven said:

Mar 1, 2014 8:29:05 GMT gigasnail said:

nuclear option, all in.

Fantastic way to kill all your own Troops while leaving your opponent's vehicles untouched.

What, you think we're noobs....?? When ya run Pvores.. ya keep stuff in reserve...dontcha know?

[gigasnail]

go big, or go home.

[guns]

1. Spam HVCs
2. Spam Pyrovores
3. Insta-kill all your Pyrovores with all your HVCs
4. ?
5. Profit

[Raven]

Mar 1, 2014 8:52:45 GMT coredump said:

Mar 1, 2014 8:44:55 GMT Raven said:

Fantastic way to kill all your own Troops while leaving your opponent's vehicles untouched.

What, you think we're noobs....??

If you actually own 9 Pyrovores you just might be. Unless, of course, you use them as Biovores.

[eeknight]

gman25639 has the right idea but the wrong weapon. I've had good results bringing a lot of STC and other pie plates to the party. We have a nice "bulge" at 36" of large blast weapons: Harpy with STC, other MC's with STC, Warriors with BS, and of course the Biovores that can hit about anything. The MCs, and even to some extent the warriors are very resilient if deployed in cover with Venomthrope support. I've won several games now by just bombarding my first two turns and otherwise hunkering down or launching an echelon assault starting from one wing (with Dakka Carnifexen leading the way). I either have to tarpit swarm or counterpunch when he moves forward/deep strikes (and we're pretty good at that) or commence my real assault starting turn three against depleted formations.

[Kwodd]

I think eek is right, you'd be much better off with STC.

[coredump]

Eek, I would really like a batreport on one of your games. Sounds like an interesting strategy.

[coredump]

Eek, I would really like a batreport on one of your games. Sounds like an interesting strategy.

[gman25639]

Yeah, STC is probably better in most cases, although I still stubbornly run a HVC on my walking tyrant because it just seems better on a tyrant than a STC, tyrant can use it better because he gets higher BS than carnifexes so less scatter with that small blast.